On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, we have asked some time back, "why not let Ant use the commons > versions"? > > Gump... blah blah blah... bootstrap... blah blah blah...
Gump is completely unimportant here. Ant must be able to bootstrap itself without any additional libraries (apart from an XML parser) is a long-standing requirement for Ant. As using <jar> is part of the bootstrap process and <jar> requires the zip classes, we have a problem here, that may be solvable by some CVS tricks. > Now that they have been put in commons for some time, it's quite > evident that there, they are dead. As you noted, the code has moved around, but not the supporting community. The move from Ant to Avalon has happened without involving the Ant community at large (some may have noticed it, but mostly by accident). The Avalon community has never trieds to support them and passed them on to commons. At least that's my view of history 8-) What's probably more important is that this code doesn't have a real community at all. Those packages have been left more or less unmodified since they've been imported. There is no active development of that code. So they may be useful as classes that can get reused by others, but they don't have a community to carry them as an independent component IMHO. > So, the solution seems simply to make these separate jars and make > them available also separately from Ant. No problem with that. Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>