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http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15949 please provide links to docs.xml and jakarta-site2 ------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-02-03 02:27 ------- the issue to solve is: get a generic way to manage a website more effectively than just plain html in a cvs. In order to use the great mechanism you have developed for the ant website, I only need the velocity engine, but not the entire jakarta-site tree and I am up and running. The benefits are that your approach is a lot simpler than what forrest/cocoon does and as Stefan wrote above: you are watching forrest/cocoon, but even with your new ant.jakarta.org website you do use their layout ideas, but not their underlying technology.