Having read the paper, we have implemented a build process that builds every 15 minutes. This works very well for us. We integrate all the time. This coaxes us to keep our changes short, refactor now rather than later. Ant is indispensable. We use the amazing IDE from www.intellij.com that integrates IDEA. We have an automated build process running on Linux using shell scripts and cron jobs that invokes Ant tasks.
Ant is really Another Neat Tool. -----Original Message----- From: Herry Koh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Book on Ant I totally agree that Ant can be a very powerful tool in helping companies and developers develop better designs, version control and build process. I have seen a very good article on that as well at http://www.thoughtworks.com/cl_library.html the paper on Continuous Integration which includes a very interesting chapter on using Ant together with CVS and JUnit as the company's build process. I would believe that any books on Ant should include some recommendations on the integration of Ant with project development and management. Just some thoughts.... Cheers, Herry. On 3 Oct 2001, at 12:46, Bhadra, Jatin wrote: > I think it is a very good idea to have a chapter that gives suggestions on > designing projects and build process. I think as Java forces developers to > write good code. ANT should forces developers to have better project design, > version control of releases and build process. > > Basically the idea is that build should be automated end to end, From > extraction from version control to deployment on application server or any > target. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Cheesman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 03 October 2001 08:07 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Book on Ant > > > At 07:45 PM 02/10/01, you wrote: > > > > >Would the book be available free online? Should be! > > > Optimistically I'll agree with this ;) > > > > >Topics for must-have: > > - installation (the jars to download). > > - property uses, file set uses. > > - example build files > > - build file architectures > > - ejb tasks > > - custom ant task development > > > > I'd add: > Something a bit more abstract / less ant-specific about the build process, > designing projects so that they can be built/managed easily. (For example, > most of us on the list *know* that source and classes should be seperate, > and that you build to a seperate directory: a fair number of the people I > work with don't bother with this... and run into all sorts of problems as a > result.) > > A small chapter on make (as a comparison to ant) would be nice, too. > > > > > > -- > > * Jim Cheesman * > Trabajo: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (34)(91) 724 9200 x 2360 > Some people say that I'm > superficial, but that's just on the surface. > > > > This e-mail (and any attachments) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please do not disclose, copy, distribute, disseminate or take any a ction in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please reply and tell us and t hen delete it. Should you wish to communicate with us by e-mail we cannot guarantee the security o f any data outside our own computer systems. > > Any information contained in this message may be subject to applicable terms and conditions and m ust not be construed as giving investment advice within or outside the United Kingdom. > > Legal & General Marketing Group, members of which are regulated by the Personal Investment Author ity and IMRO in the conduct of Investment business. > Legal & General Group PLC, Temple Court, 11 Queen Victoria Street, London, EC4N 4TP. > Registered in England no: 166055. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
