Here Here,

I consider myself a background newbie user of Ant.  Not overly active in the forums, 
and only asking questions for which I have neither the time or the knowledge to 
resolve myself.  I have made the following observations from monitoring the Ant forum.

High volume of queries
High volume of responses
High quality of responses
Friendly attitude to newbies
Non judgmental attitude to skilled practitioners.
Effort where effort belongs

Personally I believe Ant will only continue to grow and succeed.  Well done on the 
award all.  I see no point in people bashing it has no place in forums.

Ric. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Diane Holt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2002 11:18
To: Ant Users List
Subject: Re: reg: cvs / clearcase task


--- stephan beal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 March 2002 22:25 pm, Diane Holt wrote:
> > But 'cvs log' does give you a return code of 1. And 'cvs diff' 
> > returns 0 for no diffs, 1 for diffs. So it's all doable using
> > currently available Ant tasks.
> 
> Nope. How does the user get the return code for cvs without actually
> coding a task with it's one Execute/Commandline objects? He can't get
> it via the Cvs  task object [...]

I didn't say "it's all doable using the Cvs task" -- I said "it's all
doable using currently available Ant tasks".  The guy wanted to know if
there was way to do what he wants to do -- I assume without having to
write his own task(s) or modify existing ones -- and, yes, there is.

You seem awfully quick to make pronouncements that Ant can't do X unless
you start hacking at the code -- and that's just not actually been the
case 99.9% of the time. So far, the only thing it couldn't actually do was
run <record> in emacs mode -- but only because it was just stubbed off.
And that should've been a completely straightforward little thing to
implement, but somehow it turned into some big hack-away-at-Ant, which I
still don't think it needed to be.

> 'cvs --help diff' also returns 1,

Yeah, so? -- who said anything about running 'cvs --help diff'??

The ant-user list is a place where people can ask for solutions to their
problems, and hopefully we can offer them some. Constantly poohpoohing
those proffered solutions that use what's already available seems awfully
counterproductive -- especially since it's more often than not
misinformation to say you can't do this or that, since in fact you can.

I don't always put the solution together in actual Ant format (and I
didn't this time because, frankly, I had a bit too much brew and Thirsty
Bear last night to feel like doing much of anything today :), but trust me
on this, if I say there's a way to do it, it means I have actually thought
of how -- I just haven't necessarily typed it all out.

Diane

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