Serge, all, Elad Cohen is still under moderation on this WG and every mail is being reviewed on a case-by-case basis. Right now, his emails only reach the list if someone replies to them, copying the list, so I will repeat our request that people not do that, please.
If you wish to report any communication to the list, please contact the Co-Chairs at aa-wg-ch...@ripe.net The Co-Chairs have noted this email. We agree it contravenes the Community guidelines and Code of Conduct and will be taking further action. Thanks, Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG Brian Nisbet Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nis...@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 ________________________________ From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-boun...@ripe.net> on behalf of Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Sent: Thursday 9 July 2020 14:32 To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: botnet controllers CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Hello @Moderators Can you please suspend this participant? I take offense at this. We may disagree on issues and opinions. However I feel there is no space for name calling. Best regards Serge On 09.07.20 15:16, Elad Cohen wrote: > Michele how more bigger asshole you can be to be the puppet of spamhaus > so you will be able monetize your connections with them to more $$$ > > You are a loser and you are a disgraceful businessman and you are a > disgrace to the whole internet community > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-boun...@ripe.net> on behalf of > Michele Neylon - Blacknight <mich...@blacknight.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, July 9, 2020 4:02 PM > *To:* Serge Droz <serge.d...@first.org>; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net > <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> > *Subject:* Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: Re: botnet controllers > > +1 on all points > > That someone who won't even disclose who they are has the gall to demand > that Spamhaus or anyone else should is hilarious and disturbing. > > > > -- > Mr Michele Neylon > > Blacknight Solutions > > Hosting, Colocation & Domains > > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.blacknight.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C582a216f9425452c2ff108d8240c7e4b%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637298983383420558&sdata=mWZajcgnf2SlPOQeNBhszWJmCBYZV0Ee2Ma2Lrky4eA%3D&reserved=0 > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblacknight.blog%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C582a216f9425452c2ff108d8240c7e4b%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637298983383420558&sdata=YU3IkWHTh8RiqIB7Hx0STgjwy3TBnMaIxRgMatZBZ%2B8%3D&reserved=0 > / > > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fceo.hosting%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C582a216f9425452c2ff108d8240c7e4b%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637298983383420558&sdata=JaayCpznD9AJAYil4HMgXaXme9ywVp27de07uFhSz6w%3D&reserved=0 > > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 > > ------------------------------- > > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park, > Sleaty Road, Graiguecullen, Carlow, R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 > > On 09/07/2020, 07:30, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Serge Droz via > anti-abuse-wg" <anti-abuse-wg-boun...@ripe.net on behalf of > anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> wrote: > > Hi Info > > Maybe one of the reasons some Non-logging VPNs end up on blacklist sis > that the Non-Looging phrase is just an excuse to not go after misuse. > The rights to privacy and free speech do not mean anything goes. > > You can fight abuse without violating privacy. But of course that's not > for free, you need abuse people that investigate and they cost money. > Sadly, many of these VPNs frankly just don't care, using the lame excuse > that they are protecting fundamental rights, when in fact they are just > don't care or take responsibility. > > I don't agree with everything Spamhaus does, but I find them responsible > and and always found a way way to talk to them. > > I was reluctant writing this, because I'm not sure this discussion will > lead anywhere. It's one of these where opinions seem to already have > been formed. > > But you start accusing people of posting anonymously. I totally agree > this is bad, but then, who are you, i...@fos-vpn.org? > > You don't seem to offer a name yourself. I find this a bit hypocritical. > > Best > Serge > > > On 08.07.20 20:46, i...@fos-vpn.org wrote: > > All I would like from Spamhaus is to stop publishing fake SBL > records in > > order to discredit us and to use that to put pressure both upon us and > > our upstreams. > > Non-logging VPN services are as legal within the EU as Exit Nodes > of the > > Tor Network (which have massive abuse entries in various data bases, > > especially the larger ones) and public WiFi Hotspots, which can be > used > > for abusive activities, too. > > > > I don't know who "PP" is (probably the same person which posts > under the > > nickname "Petras Simeon" on Twitter and on various boards), but he > > contacted us and our upstream providers without telling his name, just > > using this email address: phishphuc...@storey.ovh and sending us the > > list of SBL entries which he also posted here. > > Don't know if he's working for Spamhaus or not, but before attacking > > others publicly, people should reveal their true identity, > anything else > > would be sneaky in my opinion. > > > > -- > Dr. Serge Droz > Chair of the FIRST Board of Directors > > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.first.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C582a216f9425452c2ff108d8240c7e4b%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637298983383420558&sdata=7%2BeIUYKg7nQPf3Ospp8hMVqhTZZyoejM1AZTTrNq4y8%3D&reserved=0 > > -- Dr. Serge Droz Chair of the FIRST Board of Directors https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.first.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C582a216f9425452c2ff108d8240c7e4b%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C0%7C637298983383420558&sdata=7%2BeIUYKg7nQPf3Ospp8hMVqhTZZyoejM1AZTTrNq4y8%3D&reserved=0
