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September 19, 2001

Bombing Afghanistan will not solve the problem

Exclusive interview with Pavel Kendel, an ethnic conflicts expert at the

Europe Institute, Russian Academy of Sciences

By Viktor Sokolov
 
Q. You are an expert on Yugoslavia, where attempts have already been
made to 
solve a problem by bombing, and now they are going to bomb Afghanistan.
Do 
Americans stand a chance to attain a result wanted by them and the rest
of 
the world in this way?

A. Afghanistan and Yugoslavia are absolutely different countries 
geographically and economically. From the point of view of those who
plan 
bombing operations, the goal is to destroy infrastructure facilities and

cause damage to military capability. But what was effective, or
relatively 
effective, in Yugoslavia, makes absolutely no sense in Afghanistan. 

Afghanistan has no infrastructure. There is nothing but mountains in
that 
backward and divided country. And its military capability is fairly
limited - 
the military strength of the groups opposed to each other in Afghanistan

consists of manpower and small arms.

There are very few airplanes in that country, and armored vehicles are
not 
numerous either. So, it is not clear what is to be destroyed by bombing.
The 
caves where terrorists are hiding?

Q. But, they say, the caves are so deep and ramified, that bombs are
unlikely 
to reach them there.

A. That is true. It is very doubtful that bombing will be effective. It
will 
be good perhaps for quieting public opinion. Just a PR action. As
regards 
real actions against the terrorists, they will develop parallel to that
and 
by other methods to be used by a special-task force.

Q. I see. So, it means that it would be better to move ground troops
there 
and conduct an army operation.

A. No, the point is that an operation conducted by special-task units
and an 
army operation are quite different things. I think Americans definitely
are 
not going to conduct just an army operation.

Q. And will they do this by using a special-task force?

A. Most certainly. Because there is no other way of seizing or
destroying 
Osama bin Laden and his supporters.

Q. And if special-task units enter Afghanistan and begin to act there,
will 
this encourage the Northern Alliance to advance to the south?

A. Absolutely. I think these actions will be coordinated by the Northern

Alliance, and most probably aid will be extended.

Q. And refugees that are moving to the CIS countries? How does Russia
feel 
about it?

A. Understandably, Russia is not happy about it, but Tajikistan,
Kyrghyzstan, 
Uzbekistan and Turkmenia like it still less. Precisely this explains a
pretty 
cautious position of the Russian leadership as regards a prospect of
joining 
this operation. The Americans will finish their bombing and go, but we
shall 
stay.

Q. Quite right. Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov is going to discuss this 
evidently with George Bush in New York. And there is information that
Ivanov 
has already said, evidently referring to President Putin, that the CIS
and 
all countries for that matter are free in their choice, and each country
will 
chose the way if finds most appropriate.

A. Well, it is just a statement of the present reality. But in fact, it
is 
really so - each country decides what it should do.

Q. You don't think it is a diplomatic statement? As a matter of fact,
the 
secretary of Russia's Security Council has gone to the south and is 
conducting talks there.

A. I think he has gone mainly to find out how those countries will
respond to 
such proposals.

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