Christian Science Monitor. 12 December 2001. Bin Laden in Pakistan,
source claims.

TORA BORA -- Osama bin Laden escaped the embattled Tora Bora base to
Pakistan 10 days ago with the help of tribesmen from the Ghilzi tribe,
according to a firsthand account Wednesday by a senior Al Qaeda
operative and Saudi financier.

Abu Jaffar, who spoke from an Afghan village still sympathetic to Mr.
bin Laden and his fighters, says that several days later, bin Laden sent
his 19-year-old, married son Salah Uddin back to act on his behalf. He
is now the only bin Laden family member inside the Tora Bora terror

"Osama bin Laden traveled out of Tora Bora two times in this Ramadan
holy month. He left to meet Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar about
three weeks ago and stayed with him near Kandahar," Mr. Jaffar says. "He
left again just over a week ago and was headed to Pakistan, where he was
helped across the border by Pashtun tribesmen."

This account of bin Laden's movements is the first detailed evidence
that the Saudi national has escaped the nightly inferno of US bombing
raids on Tora Bora.

The account also matched earlier accounts of bin Laden's movements from
his arrival in the White Mountains two days before the departure of the
Taliban from Jalalabad and his lengthy dealings with sympathizers in the
Pakistani town of Parachinar.

American and Afghan officials, who have been insisting that bin Laden is
in Eastern Afghanistan, have sounded less certain in recent days about
their own accounts of the movements of the world's most wanted man.

The interview with the Saudi financier and religious scholar, Mr.
Jaffar, was conducted through an Arabic-speaking reporter and
interpreter in a remote village at the base of Tora Bora.

Jaffar had stayed in the village for one night, after his foot was blown
off by a stray cluster bomb. He had stepped on the bomb after exiting
his family's cave amid heavy bombing to look for injured persons.

He was traveling Wednesday with his Egyptian wife, a daughter, and a
13-year-old Yemeni orphan boy. The four, who had been brought four hours
on foot from inside the embattled Al Qaeda base, intended to leave
clandestinely in the morning for Pakistan.

Jaffar, who traveled with bin Laden in a truck out of Jalalabad, says:
"Osama is my good friend. My own son was working with his son Salah
Uddin in Ghazni.

"After Osama left 10 days ago, he contacted us inside Tora Bora to tell
us that he was sending his own son to be with us there. His son traveled
through Paktia province with 30 Arabs and 50 Afghan fighters.

"Yesterday, Salah Uddin told me to leave, and he gave me money because I
will likely need another operation on my leg."

During the interview, the Saudi financier, who studied in Cairo's Al
Azhar University, reached in his pocket and pulled out a wad of British
notes to show that he had enough money for his travels.

Like hundreds of other Arabs with Al Qaeda ties who have gone before
him, Jaffar intends to flee Afghanistan by traveling north and then east
on a road in the direction of the famed Khyber Pass before crossing the
Kabul River in a wooden boat and traveling into a remote tribal area of

The Saudi financier's Egyptian wife cried throughout the two-hour
interview. "I've seen my sweet brothers and sisters killed by fire from
the sky. Alas, I've begged them to leave, and they have refused. They
want to die there for the sake of Allah."

Jaffar says that most of the family of Ayman al-Zawahiri, the Egyptian
doctor known as the right-hand man of bin Laden, have been killed by the
US bombing. He says that earlier reports - mostly Afghan - of Mr.
Zawahiri's own death had proved false. This account matched an obituary
for Zawahiri's family, but not for himself, in an Egyptian newspaper
last week.

Only Wednesday, one of two senior Afghan warlords said that only bin
Laden and his top 22 deputies should be brought to justice. "The rest
will be able to go free," says the regional security chief, Hazrat Ali,
who has been working closely with persons he refers to as "US military
advisers" on the ground.

Most Al Qaeda fighters inside Tora Bora had been prepared to give
themselves up after the departure of bin Laden.

But when Al Qaeda loyalists were informed a week ago that "scores of
British and American commandos" had entered the region at Jalalabad, a
decision was taken by the fighters to stand and "fight the infidels,"
Jaffar says.

Jaffar, who characterized himself as a moderate among the hundreds of
hard-core fighters still inside Tora Bora, says that Chechen and
Algerian fighters had resisted surrender more than Saudi, Yemeni, or
Egyptian nationals.

The Saudi financier, who left the Tora Bora camp only Tuesday afternoon,
says that the idea of a "surrender" was now only acceptable to a small
segment of the remaining Al Qaeda fighters.

"I was involved in the discussions about a peaceful surrender," he says.
"We had agreed to send two men to discuss the issue, including our
demands for amnesty and safe passage out of Afghanistan."

He says that Chechen fighters, who are manning heavy machinegun posts,
are the most resistant to the idea of surrendering.

Both Jaffar and his wife provided the first detailed account of how bad
life has become inside the Tora Bora base. The partial siege of the base
by Western-backed Afghans and US Special Forces has depleted food
supplies and left many Al Qaeda members looking for a way out.

Egyptian and Afghan sources close to Al Qaeda say that 120 Al Qaeda
fighters inside Tora Bora have been killed by US air raids in the past
three weeks.

But the Arabs and Chechens inside Tora Bora still have a functioning
hospital, according to Jaffar. His leg was amputated there. He says that
most Al Qaeda members do not leave their elaborate cave complex unless
they have to relieve themselves.

Jaffar also says that for two weeks, scores, if not hundreds, of Arabs
have been safely spirited out of the Tora Bora camp.

He says that some senior members in the current Jalalabad government are
aware of the Al Qaeda members' movements, and that the journeys have
been paved with hard cash.

Most of the Arabs escaping to safety are women children and old people.
Wounded soldiers and some young men have also been permitted by bin
Laden's son to leave the embattled base.

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Barry Stoller

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