HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
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Britaiin WASN'T neutral in the Russo-Japanese War but
maintained "Benevolent Neutrality" to Japan.

I was amazed when I went into it how far we were
involved, and the amazing manoevres in Europe to keep
France and Germany from invervening on Russia's side.

The decision to align with France and Germany came
relatively late, (after the Russian threat to
Britian's position in the Far East had been
eliminated).
There had been naval scares against RUSSIA in 1895 and
1901.

The Anglo-America rivalry had faded out by 1940-41,
the bridge being the Depression period when America
looked in on its own affairs.

But by 1940-41 we couldn't win except by America help,
hence the British ivolvement with FDR  in enticing
japan into war,

Richard

PS. We have come full-circle, Britain invented
Geo-Politics in the 1890's against Russia, and now its
back in a big way, see Zbigiew Briszinski's "The Grand
Chessboard, American Primacy and its geopolitical
Imperitives".  

  
--- STEVE KACZYNSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
> ---------------------------
> 
> We have seen in our own times how yesterday's "good
> guy" can become today's 
> enemy or "terrorist", and this pattern clearly
> occurred in the past. Britain 
> was neutral in the Russo-Japanese War, for example,
> but with a clear bias 
> towards Japan. By 1941, Japanese warmth towards
> Britain had clearly 
> evaporated. Whether there were still those in
> Britain who cherished a 
> relationship with Japan right up to Pearl
> Harbor/Hong Kong/Singapore, I 
> don't know.
> Certainly in the 1920s there was bad blood between
> Britain and the USA, when 
> there was no talk of a "special relationship",
> probably because the 
> dominance of one partner had not yet been fully
> established.
> 
> Steve K.
> ________________________________________
> 
> >From: Richard Roper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: British WWI air force officer spied
> for Japan, files show 
> >[WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.
> >Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 05:14:31 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
> >---------------------------
> >
> >There has been nothing, which is almost certainly
> >significant.
> >
> >To be an "advisor" to a foreign government in that
> >period required official approval and also meant
> you
> >would be some kind of Agent.
> >
> >It almost certainly meant between 1920-22 he was
> >strenghtening Japan as Britain's ally in case of
> >trouble with America in the Far East.
> >
> >As you say there are contradictions within
> >Imperialism, and during this period there was real
> >rivalry btween Britain and America as to who was to
> be
> >top commercially in the Far East as well as
> infighting
> >as to who was the be No1 Imperialist Power.
> >
> >Japan was Britain's key ally.
> >There was real recriminations at the Washington
> >Conference, and had it failed there would have been
> a
> >naval race B + J v A, as well as a continuation of
> the
> >Japanese Alliance.
> >
> >In which case war would probably, and almost
> certainly
> >would have resulted a few years later around 1928.
> >
> >See
> >http://www.glasnost.de/hist/usa/1935invasion.html
> >for American reaction to British plans.
> >
> >Japan considered she had been done regarding
> >battleship numbers by the Washington Conference and
> >was being encouraged by Britain to build carriers
> on
> >spare hulls in order to pacify her.
> >
> >It looks like he was acting on the instructions of
> onw
> >part of British intelligence and being detected by
> >another.
> >
> >
> >
> >--- STEVE KACZYNSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
> > > ---------------------------
> > >
> > > Perhaps. There are contradictions within
> > > imperialism.
> > > Has there been any mention of this in the
> British
> > > media? I certainly haven't
> > > seen any, and  it is a rather embarrassing story
> > > from the establishment point of view in the UK.
> > > There is a lot of rubbish on
> > > the internet, but occasionally you get nuggets
> of
> > > info that don't make it
> > > into the mainstream media, for whatever reason.
> > >
> > > Steve K.
> > > ___________________________________
> > >
> > > >From: Richard Roper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: British WWI air force officer
> spied
> > > for Japan, files show
> > > >[WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.
> > > >Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 06:32:26 -0800 (PST)
> > > >
> > > >HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
> > > >---------------------------
> > > >
> > > >This may not entirely be as clear cut as it
> seems,
> > > as
> > > >many in Britain did not want to abandon the
> > > japanese
> > > >alliance after the 1921 Washington Treaty and
> were
> > > >concerned about britian's position in the Far
> East.
> > > >
> > > >--- Steve Wagner
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >wrote:
> > > > > HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK
> > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > from
> > > > > http://www.japantoday.com/
> > > > > __________
> > > > >
> > > > > British WWI air force officer spied for
> Japan,
> > > files
> > > > > show
> > > > >
> > > > > Will Hollingworth
> > > > >
> > > > > Friday, January 4, 2002 at 09:30 JST
> > > > >
> > > > > LONDON - A pillar of the British
> establishment
> > > was
> > > > > passing secret
> > > > > information about aviation design to Japan
> > > during
> > > > > the 1920s,
> > > > > according to secret government files
> > > declassified
> > > > > Thursday.
> > > > >
> > > > >   The Foreign Office files from 1926 show
> that
> > > Lord
> > > > > Sempill, reputedly
> > > > > one of the founders of the Royal Flying
> Corps in
> > > > > World War I, passed
> > > > > details of British "aeronautical
> construction"
> > > to
> > > > > the Japanese naval
> > > > > attache in London, Capt Teijiro Toyoda.
> > > > >
> > > > >   The records, which have remained
> classified
> > > for
> > > > > the last 75 years,
> > > > > indicate that the espionage took place
> roughly
> > > > > between 1922 and early
> > > > > 1926.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Sempill, who died in 1965, had worked in
> Japan
> > > as
> > > > > part of the British
> > > > > air mission and served as an adviser to the
> > > Japanese
> > > > > naval air
> > > > > service. From the files, it would appear
> that
> > > > > Sempill was stationed
> > > > > in Japan between 1920 and 1922.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Sempill was apparently well respected
> within
> > > > > Japanese circles and
> > > > > received a personal letter from the then
> > > Japanese
> > > > > Prime Minister
> > > > > Tomosaburo Kato (1922-1923) who thanked
> Sempill
> > > for
> 
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