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That is my point...that all Russia is capable of anymore, is "speaking
out" and as the saying goes, "talk is cheap". The Russians have spoken
out strongly and repeatedly, against U.S aggression against Iraq. and it
has not deterred the U.S one bit. In Yugoslavia, Russia even disgustingly
played the "good cop" in the U.S game of "good cop - bad cop" in
"negotiating" the retreat from Kosovo and the NATO /KLA occupation..
If the Soviet Union had still  been in existence, the U.S would have never
dared start its wars against Iraq, Yugoslavia and Afghanistan .
mart

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 I just wish Russia would speak out as strongly against US actions
in Afghanistan  as they do against US aggression against Iraq.

 peacefully yours,
 Nancy Hey

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 Comrades,

 Mart wrote

 "Noble sentiments to be sure, but Russia is *not* the Soviet Union
 and the U.S cares little about what Russia thinks or says.
mart"

Indeed that's true but the capitalist Russia of today has reason to be
concerned about protecting it's sphere's of influence in a world of
competing imperial powers and especially now that the US imperialists have a
military presence in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Afghanistan and look like
they staying for a while -- Russia and China are pretty concerned.

 The way things are going, with a renewed US military presence in the
 Philippines -- supposedly to fight terrorism, its support for the Colombian
 government against the FARC, talk of US and European imperialist actions in
 the Middle East and Africa -- the western imperialists are on the march and
 it certainly looks like contradictions between rival major and minor
 imperialial powers  will come to a head with the possibility of war, even
 world war.
 Charles

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 Reuters. 24 January 2002.  Russia Warns U.S. Against Military Strike on
 Iraq.

MOSCOW -- Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov said Thursday that Moscow
was opposed to any U.S. military operation against Iraq, offering
crucial support to Baghdad in its confrontation with Washington.

In a further gesture of support after talks with Iraqi Deputy Prime
Minister Tareq Aziz, Ivanov said Moscow wanted sanctions against Iraq to
be lifted.

Aziz arrived in Moscow Wednesday amid threats by Washington to use force
against Iraq if it refused to allow in U.N. arms inspectors, who left
Iraq in 1998 complaining they were being prevented from performing their
duties.

"We will not submit to U.S. threats," Aziz told a news conference during
a break in the talks. "If we face aggression, we will defend our
country."

Russia has maintained close ties with Iraq and is trying to recover
Soviet-era debts of about $9 billion. It is deeply suspicious of U.S.
plans to extend military action to other countries suspected of backing
international terrorism.

"The struggle against terrorism should be based on a firm legal basis
and the U.N. should play a coordinating role in the joint international
effort," Ivanov said.
"That is why Russia sees as unacceptable a mechanical spread of the
anti-terrorist operation to any other country, including Iraq."
"If such a thing occurred, this would not only weaken the anti-terrorist
coalition but also help extremist forces which want to ruin this
coalition and aim at using contradictions among its members to achieve
their goals."
Ivanov reiterated Russia's support for lifting sanctions against Iraq,
which he described as "counterproductive."
He welcomed dialogue between Baghdad and U.N. Secretary-General Kofi
Annan, started last year.
"Any solution should state clearly the prospects and conditions for
lifting sanctions as envisaged in the U.N. Security Council's
resolution," he said.
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 Barry Stoller
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