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This is fairly TYPICAL of an enormous amount of stuff which has come out of apparantly "left-wing" and "socialist" groups, particularly here in Britain. So similar is it that serious questions must be asked as to its origin. Whilst claiming impecible "anti-imperialist" and "socialist" credentials, by the use of language, and political positions, it ends up totally supporting American, EEC, and NATO Imperialism and is clearly designed to cause confusion on the left. Particularly these two lines;- The "right of self-determination" and "secession". The war just happened to start, then along came the EEC. and the US., worried by the fighting/ ( or in one variaiant, to exploit the situation ), so it was a good thing to Intervene really. I've had this identical arguement in meetings in Britain over several years, and bitter recriminations have followed. "How dare you, you're accusing us of supporting Imperialism !". "Well you are". --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK > --------------------------- > > If you can stomach this crap read on... > > In a message dated 26/01/02 10:13:54 Eastern > Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > > > Subj:Some notes on NATO > > Date:26/01/02 10:13:54 Eastern Standard Time > > From:<A > HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> > > To:<A > HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>, > <A > HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>, > <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>, <A > HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>, > <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>, <A > HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>, <A > HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>, > <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>, <A > HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>, > <A > HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > Resolution of Partija Rada on the NATO Pact and > Its Presence In Yugoslavia > > > > Troops of the NATO pact, together with its > political headquarters, are on > > the territory of Yugoslavia, stationed in Bosnia > and Herzegovina, Croatia > > and Macedonia. > > > > > > > > The American imperialists in co-operation with the > imperialists of Western > > Europe created the NATO pact in 1947. Worried over > the great victories of > > the Soviet Union, the creation of the socialist > camp, the victory of the > > Red Army in China, and the mighty anti-colonial > and anti-imperialist > > movement in countries of the Third world, they > created the NATO pact as an > > aggressive military pact against the Soviet Union, > China, and the > > liberation movements in the colonies. From the > very beginning of its > > creation it was formed as a striking military fist > to conquer the Soviet > > Union and other socialist countries, and to > restore capitalism there. The > > direct interventions of NATO in Vietnam, Latin > America and Africa are well > > known. > > > > > > > > At the end of the eighties, the Soviet Union fell > apart, the Warsaw pact > > was dissolved, and the countries in the framework > of the Soviet Union, as > > well as the countries of Eastern Europe, > liquidated socialism and proceeded > > to restore capitalism. > > > > > > > > When the main adversary of the NATO pact - the > Warsaw pact - disappeared, > > it would seem normal that the NATO pact would be > dissolved. Instead, the > > NATO pact was strengthened, it was armed with new, > most perfect weapons, > > and the military budgets of members of the NATO > pact have grown. Using > > economic, diplomatic, political, and military > pressure, it does everything > > to expand itself, not only to all countries of > Eastern Europe, but also to > > all countries of the former Soviet Union, and thus > to reach the borders of > > Russia. Its aim is thus to completely isolate > Russia, force her to her > > knees, so that she and the other countries of the > former Soviet Union would > > become some kind of semi-colonies, with > undisturbed use their huge natural > > resources, the abundance of cheap labor power and > vast market. It is > > obvious that the NATO pact is still an aggressive > military force of > > imperialism, which does everything, not only by > economic and financial > > means, but also by the military force of NATO, to > insure the reign of > > imperialism in the whole world. > > > > > > > > The NATO pact is a reactionary military force of > American imperialism, the > > most dangerous enemy of socialism and of the > peoples in the countries of > > the Third World. > > > > > > > > Why did troops of the NATO pact come to > Yugoslavia? > > > > > > > > The USA and the NATO pact remain, after the > destruction of the Soviet > > Union, the only superpower, the only global force > in the world. One of the > > strategic aims of the USA and the NATO pact is not > to allow events in the > > world to escape their control and start to develop > without their influence > > and against them. They quietly watched several > years of war in Slovenia, > > Croatia and especially in Bosnia and Herzegovina, > and did not find the need > > to intervene. But they concluded that the > continuation of the war in Bosnia > > and Herzegovina would unavoidably lead to its > spreading to Kosova, > > Macedonia, and the whole Balkans, and that Turkey > and Greece, two important > > members of NATO, would join this war on opposite > sides. The NATO pact then > > decided to send its troops to stop the war in > Bosnia and Herzegovina. They > > forced Milosevic and Tudjman to sign the Dayton > agreement. > > > > > > > > One other element seriously influenced them to > speed up the implementation > > of the Dayton agreement and also to solve the > question of Kosova and make > > possible a longer and stable peace in the Balkans. > That was caused the > > possibility that soon Turkey would "explode," and > with her the whole Middle > > East, so that they would eventually find > themselves at war with the whole > > Moslem world which now numbers one billion one > hundred million people. > > > > > > > > What is the position of Partija Rada toward the > presence of NATO on the > > territory of Yugoslavia? > > > > > > > > Partija Rada considers that this must be > considered unemotionally and that > > one must determine whether in this situation the > presence of NATO is good > > or bad for the peoples of Yugoslavia. Mostly > because in history there have > > been cases when the interests of the imperialists, > if there was a common > > enemy, may be identical to the interests of the > people. That happened > > during World War 2 when the Soviet Union signed a > pact with the two largest > > Imperialist powers of that time - the USA and > England - because of the > > joint fight against the common enemy - Hitler's > Germany. > > > > > > > > In Yugoslavia, unfortunately, nationalism has > gripped wide masses. The > > Great-Serb and Great-Croat chauvinists, indeed, > with their policy of war, > > have endangered the global interests of the USA > and NATO, which provoked > > the arrival of NATO in Yugoslavia. It is a fact > that in Yugoslavia, because > > of widespread nationalist consciousness, forces > could not be organized to > === message truncated === > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > From: "Partija rada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "poblachtach dearg" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Redaktion C.O. Brasilien" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Reinhard Stranz" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Renate Mutschler" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Rosa Antifa Wien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Taimur > Rahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "TARGETS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Unlimited News Service" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Viktor V. Bourenkov" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Some notes on NATO > Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:15:32 +0100 > > Resolution of Partija Rada on the NATO Pact and Its > Presence In Yugoslavia > > Troops of the NATO pact, together with its political > headquarters, are on the territory of Yugoslavia, > stationed in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia and > Macedonia. > > > The American imperialists in co-operation with the > imperialists of Western Europe created the NATO pact > in 1947. Worried over the great victories of the > Soviet Union, the creation of the socialist camp, > the victory of the Red Army in China, and the mighty > anti-colonial and anti-imperialist movement in > countries of the Third world, they created the NATO > pact as an aggressive military pact against the > Soviet Union, China, and the liberation movements in > the colonies. From the very beginning of its > creation it was formed as a striking military fist > to conquer the Soviet Union and other socialist > countries, and to restore capitalism there. The > direct interventions of NATO in Vietnam, Latin > America and Africa are well known. > > > At the end of the eighties, the Soviet Union fell > apart, the Warsaw pact was dissolved, and the > countries in the framework of the Soviet Union, as > well as the countries of Eastern Europe, liquidated > socialism and proceeded to restore capitalism. > > > When the main adversary of the NATO pact - the > Warsaw pact - disappeared, it would seem normal that > the NATO pact would be dissolved. Instead, the NATO > pact was strengthened, it was armed with new, most > perfect weapons, and the military budgets of members > of the NATO pact have grown. Using economic, > diplomatic, political, and military pressure, it > does everything to expand itself, not only to all > countries of Eastern Europe, but also to all > countries of the former Soviet Union, and thus to > reach the borders of Russia. Its aim is thus to > completely isolate Russia, force her to her knees, > so that she and the other countries of the former > Soviet Union would become some kind of > semi-colonies, with undisturbed use their huge > natural resources, the abundance of cheap labor > power and vast market. It is obvious that the NATO > pact is still an aggressive military force of > imperialism, which does everything, not only by > economic and financial means, but also by the > military force of NATO, to insure the reign of > imperialism in the whole world. > > > The NATO pact is a reactionary military force of > American imperialism, the most dangerous enemy of > socialism and of the peoples in the countries of the > Third World. > > > Why did troops of the NATO pact come to Yugoslavia? > > > The USA and the NATO pact remain, after the > destruction of the Soviet Union, the only > superpower, the only global force in the world. One > of the strategic aims of the USA and the NATO pact > is not to allow events in the world to escape their > control and start to develop without their influence > and against them. They quietly watched several years > of war in Slovenia, Croatia and especially in Bosnia > and Herzegovina, and did not find the need to > intervene. But they concluded that the continuation > of the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina would > unavoidably lead to its spreading to Kosova, > Macedonia, and the whole Balkans, and that Turkey > and Greece, two important members of NATO, would > join this war on opposite sides. The NATO pact then > decided to send its troops to stop the war in Bosnia > and Herzegovina. They forced Milosevic and Tudjman > to sign the Dayton agreement. > > > One other element seriously influenced them to speed > up the implementation of the Dayton agreement and > also to solve the question of Kosova and make > possible a longer and stable peace in the Balkans. > That was caused the possibility that soon Turkey > would "explode," and with her the whole Middle East, > so that they would eventually find themselves at war > with the whole Moslem world which now numbers one > billion one hundred million people. > > > What is the position of Partija Rada toward the > presence of NATO on the > territory of Yugoslavia? > > > Partija Rada considers that this must be considered > unemotionally and that one must determine whether in > this situation the presence of NATO is good or bad > for the peoples of Yugoslavia. Mostly because in > history there have been cases when the interests of > the imperialists, if there was a common enemy, may > be identical to the interests of the people. That > happened during World War 2 when the Soviet Union > signed a pact with the two largest Imperialist > powers of that time - the USA and England - because > of the joint fight against the common enemy - > Hitler's Germany. > > > In Yugoslavia, unfortunately, nationalism has > gripped wide masses. The Great-Serb and Great-Croat > chauvinists, indeed, with their policy of war, have > endangered the global interests of the USA and NATO, > which provoked the arrival of NATO in Yugoslavia. It > is a fact that in Yugoslavia, because of widespread > nationalist consciousness, forces could not be > organized to oppose the dangerous, chauvinist policy > of Milosevic and Tudjman. It is a fact that if NATO > troops had not arrived and had not stopped the war > by the force of arms, probably this year there would > be another hundred thousand deaths, further > destruction and new crimes. > > > The very act of stopping the war was positive. The > effort to implement the Dayton agreement, to provide > a united Bosnia and Herzegovina, for all refugees to > return to their homes, and to convict all war > criminals, PR considers as in the interest of the > people of Yugoslavia. The implementation of the > Dayton agreement and the solution of the question of > Kosova will strike a final blow to the Great-Serb > policy of war of conquest, and also to nationalism > in Yugoslavia, which was its main basis in that > policy. That is why PR in this and similar > situations for now is not against the presence of > NATO, because at this moment it is in the interest > of the people of Yugoslavia. > > > But if, after the establishment of peace in Bosnia > and Herzegovina and the solution of these basic > problems, NATO troops remain in Yugoslavia, Partija > rada would consider them as occupiers, which they > really would be. Then PR, as a genuine patriotic > party, would organize a political and other fight > against the presence of NATO, up to an armed fight > for the liberation of the country from the > occupiers. > > "Program and Statute of Partija rada" > > Belgrade 1997. > > > > > * > > * * > > > > We are reprinting the resolution of Partija Rada > below because overall it takes a correct position on > the national question. There is no other party or > organization in Yugoslavia that we know of that > upholds the right to self-determination of the > various nations there. That country has been torn by > wars between the different nationalities, especially > (but not only) in the last 10 years. > Marxist-Leninists have long recognized the right to > self-determination as the only democratic solution > to the national question, a solution which can only > help the development of the class struggle. We > support the right to self-determination not because > we are in favour of small states, but because we > know that genuine unity can only be based on > equality. > > However, we cannot reprint this resolution without > adding some strong criticism. Although it was > written in 1997, two years before NATO's barbaric > attack on Yugoslavia, the resolution already showed > clear signs of a serious misevaluation of the role > of imperialism. For example, it states that 'the > intervention of the USA and Western powers. became a > factor in the solution, not only of the question of > Bosnia and Herzegovina. but also of Kosova and > Montenegro.' > > It should be clear to all anti-imperialists, and > especially to Marxist-Leninists, that imperialism > cannot be a positive factor in the solution of the > national === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com --------------------------- ANTI-NATO INFORMATION LIST ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: [email protected] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a84x2u.a9WB2D Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================
