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Dear Ivan,
(1) Source(s)? and (2) your response to my post about the "Hague
tribunal"?
David
From: "Ivan I M Kokotovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> well, considering the shifting populations throughout the history of the
> region it is difficult to substantiate the actual dates.
>
> for example.....Banja Luka was once a Croatian Capital, as was Knin
> Croatia's first Capital, proclaimed as such by King Zvonimir of Croatia in
> about the 11th century. The territories and symbols of Slavonia, Dalmatia,
> Croatia and Istra..as well as Bosnia and Hercegovina appeared on Croatian
> maps, religious documents and family crests throughout the period of the 10
> century (croatia's first united kingdom under King Tomislav) to about today.
> (including the dreaded chequerboard heritage)
>
> The serbian populations were brought in by Austrian rule to create a
> military frontier between the Ottoman Empire and and the rest of Europe.
> The "Vojna Krajina" was populated by Serbs, Croats, Romanians, Czechs,
> Ukrainians etc....anyone who the Austrians thought could defend Christendom
> against the attacking Ottomans.
>
> This all occured in the period of the late 14th century, and to the 17th
> century.
>
> The traditional "Vojna Krajina" is located around the Lika/Knin area of
> Croatia.
>
> Thus....according to history...it is Croatian land which has become
> inhabited also by Serbs, due to major political direction.
>
> The current territories of Croatia are those drawn up in 1974....., those
> serbs living within these territories were and are living in the republic of
> Croatia, simple as that.
>
> The serb republic of Krajina was first established in 1991.
>
> Now please.......you tell me.......your version of history.......
> as well as telling me the legitimacy of Krajina....given its inception was
> based on aggression and ethnic cleansing of non-serbs.
>
>
>
>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: "Ivan I M Kokotovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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> >Subject: Re: Letter by Dr. Alex Dragnich to The Washington Times
> >Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 01:25:47 -0400
> >
> >
> > Dear Ivan,
> >
> > You claim that the Serbs (of Krajina) were living in "Croatian
> >territory"? I'm wondering
> >if you could tell me the date when Krajina became "Croatian territory",
> >and who its inhabitants have been throughout history?
> >
> >I still await your response to my post
> > about the ICTY.
> >
> >
> >From: "Ivan I M Kokotovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > >
> > > these crimes were committed by Croat forces.....they should be indicted
> >for
> > > this. hopefully all those involved in individual cases of war crimes ,
> >and
> > > those involved in masterminding war crimes can be held accountable.
> > >
> > > and indeed....it was croatian territory....where serbs lived.
> > >
> > > they did not wish to live within croatia, thus they forcefully wrested
> >it
> > > from croatian authority.
> > >
> > > the serbs who left croatia in 1995....did so for good reason...they were
> > > fearful of retribution from croat forces for the acts of the JNA and
> >Serbs
> > > merely 4 years earlier in the creation of Krajina.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Nancy A. Hey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > >Subject: Re: Letter by Dr. Alex Dragnich to The Washington Times
> > > >Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:40:27 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Dear Stella,
> > > >
> > > >Good letter by Dr. Dragnich. It really shows the selective judgement
> >of
> > > >the ICTFY, as it's a darn shame that people like Bill Clinton can get
> >away
> > > >scott free with war crimes like this. :-(
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Peacefully Yours,
> > > >Nancy A. Hey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: john_peter maher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>To: john_peter maher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Subject: Re: Letter by Dr. Alex Dragnich to The Washington Times
> > > >>Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 21:43:27 -0700
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>sparta wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > The following letter, which I am circulating, was submitted to The
> > > >> > Washington Times on 29 September 2002 by Dr. Alex Dragnich.
> > > >> > Stella
> > >
> >
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >-------------------------------------------------------------Letters
> > > >> > Editor The Washington Times Jeffrey T. Kuhner, in two separate
> > > >> > columns ("Hold The Hague Accountable," Sept. 9; and "Is Clinton a
> >War
> > > >> > Criminal?," Sept. 22) commits a serious factual error. It concerns
> > > >> > the Krajina region of Croatia. He says that the Serbs seized that
> > > >> > area in 1991 and that in 1995 the Croats "only restored Croatia's
> > > >> > territorial integrity." In fact, Krajina was the Serbs home for
> > > >> > centuries, even before the United States existed. When the
> >Croats
> > > >> > drove some 200,000 Serbs from the Krajina, it was generally
> >reported
> > > >> > as the largest ethnic cleansing of all the Yugoslav wars (Kuhner
> >uses
> > > >> > the figure of 150,000, while some insist that it was at least
> > > >> > 300,000.) Most of those who could not move (the ill and infirm)
> >were
> > > >> > killed and in many cases their houses burned. As Kuhner
> >reports,
> > > >> > Croatian General Ante Gotovina was indicted by The Hague tribunal
> >on
> > > >> > charges that he exercised "command responsibility" over that Croat
> > > >> > operation. Because the United States provided military and
> >technical
> > > >> > assistance to the Croats the question arises as to whether
> >President
> > > >> > Clinton might also be indicted. U.S. negotiator Richard
> >Holbrooke
> > > >> > has provided some incriminating evidence in his book, To End the
> >War.
> > > >> > He reports a meeting where the late American foreign service
> >officer,
> > > >> > Bob Frasure, handed him a note, referring to the Croat action in
> > > >> > Krajina which read in part: "Dick" We 'hired' these guys to be our
> > > >> > junkyard dogs because we were desperate. We need to try to
> >'control'
> > > >> > them." (page 73.) Later, just before the Dayton talks, when
> >the
> > > >> > Croats were driving the Serbs, Holbrooke reports on a talk he had
> > > >> > with Croat Defense Minister, Gojko Susak, to whom he said: "We
> >can't
> > > >> > say this publicly, but please take Sanski most, Prijedor, and
> >Bosanski
> > > >> > Novi. And do it quickly, before the Serbs regroup." (page 166.)
> > > >> > I am convinced that your readers should know these
> > > >> > facts. (signature) Alex N. DragnichProfessor EmritusVanderbilt
> > > >> > University
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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