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European Parliament 
November 22, 2009


EU and NATO Should Cooperate Politically And Militarily Says Rasmussen


In an exclusive interview, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen says it 
“makes sense” for the EU and NATO to cooperate politically and militarily. 
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As Europe develops its own separate security and defence policy, how do you see 
future cooperation between the EU and the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation?

First of all I would like to stress that I have a very positive attitude to the 
development of a stronger defence and security policy pillar within the EU. I 
think that it is the way forward. I would very much like to see an EU capable 
of conducting crisis management and peacekeeping operations in cooperation with 
NATO. I do not consider the development of ESDP (European Security and Defence 
Policy) as competition with NATO, but complementary to NATO.

I think that strengthened cooperation makes sense politically as well as 
militarily. Politically, it could be because a majority of the member states 
are members of both organisations. If we organise the right division of labour, 
we could add value, like in Kosovo, where NATO conducts the military operations 
and the EU a more civilian mission. In Bosnia it’s the other way around: we 
have handed over the responsibility for the military operation to the EU. So 
it’s an excellent example of how we can achieve political synergies.

Militarily it makes sense that we join efforts. I think common procurement (of 
equipment), common acquisition, collective solutions in general would provide 
us with more efficient solutions. And we could make more efficient use of money.

NATO has its own Parliamentary Assembly, what role can the European Parliament 
and national parliaments play in security and defence policy?

Well, there are differences among our members as to how strongly parliaments 
are engaged in security and defence policy. It very much depends on 
constitutional arrangements. Having said that, as a long-serving 
parliamentarian, I’m strongly in favour of strengthened engagement from 
parliamentarians in defence and security matters.

I think in today’s world it is of crucial importance to strengthen the link 
between the people and decision-making in security and defence policy areas. In 
ancient times there was a very long distance between the diplomatic and 
military establishments and the man on the street. But in today’s world foreign 
policy, security policy and defence policy are intertwined and interlinked with 
people’s daily lives.
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President Obama is on the verge of deciding whether to send more troops to 
Afghanistan. Do you have a feeling about what he will do and the implications?

I think we will end up with more resources, more troops, but it's a bit too 
early to present any exact figure. We are now in a very intense phase of 
consultation among allies and partners within the international ISAF coalition 
made up of 43 countries so its takes time. I think it is necessary to spend a 
sufficient amount of time to make sure we really take the right decision. I 
have a particular focus on the training mission because I really think the 
transition to Afghan lead is the way ahead. But it is still too early to 
present exact figures.

Is NATO overstretched, if there were another conflict would it be able to find 
the resources?

NATO is currently the world’s strongest military alliance with a huge capacity, 
but of course right now we are very much focused on our mission in Afghanistan, 
because a lot is at stake for the Afghan people, but first and foremost for our 
own security and for the international community. Let me stress why we are in 
Afghanistan. It is because of security. The terrorists who attacked the US on 
9/11 2001 were rooted in Afghanistan and the following day the NATO alliance 
invoked, for the first time in its history, Article 5, the collective defence 
clause, which states that an attack on one member is considered an attack on 
all of them. The mission is still not accomplished – so right now we are 
focused on Afghanistan. This is also about territorial defence.

I would like to stress that the core task of NATO is territorial defence of 
allied nations but we have to realise that in today’s world the defence of our 
own borders very often starts far away like in Afghanistan, so right now this 
is our number one priority.

NATO is in the process of developing a new strategic concept. Countries like 
the US, the UK, Holland and Denmark prefer a more global strategy, while France 
and many of the newer member states would prefer a more regional focus. What 
would you prefer?

I don’t see any contradiction. This will be one of the core items on the agenda 
in our new strategic concept exercise. Since NATO was established 60 years ago 
territorial defence according to article 5 has been our core function it will 
remain so!

Today, we are also faced with new threats, including cyber attacks, and in 
order to address these new threats properly, we need to transform our armed 
forces.

Around 70% of our armed forces in Europe are stationary. I think that if we are 
to make our territorial defence credible, then we have to make sure that we can 
actually move people around, we have to have a more mobile, a more flexible and 
more deployable military.

In conclusion, I do not see any contradiction between territorial defence and a 
global reach and a global perspective. My role will be to build this bridge.

How would you describe the differences between being Prime Minister of Denmark 
and the Secretary General of NATO?

(Laughing) I get that question a lot. There are similarities and there are 
differences. I think that in my case there are more similarities than 
differences. Of course it is a particular challenge to the Secretary General of 
NATO to ensure consensus among 28 nations, 28 individual sovereign nations with 
28 particular interests.

Having said that, as leader of the government in Denmark I was also in position 
where I had to create a consensus within the coalition government, which was 
also a minority government. And then I had to create the majority in parliament.

So I think that I come from a political environment where we are used to 
consensus building. There is a difference between operating in a strictly 
national environment and a international environment in Brussels, but it’s not 
that different.

In Denmark I had a weekly meeting with the government on Tuesdays. Here I have 
a weekly meeting with North Atlantic Council on Wednesdays. So maybe it’s just 
the difference between Tuesday and Wednesday.
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