Hi
,
> Note that it shows specifically now 3 clause not 4 clause (old
> style). For some reason, Kunle/Michael made their C# contribution
> 4clause BSD even though the link to the certificate of origin sits
> under the three clause BSD license on the same page. They refuse to
> change it so I will be throwing out all their work when I can. Please
> let me know if for some reason there is a difference for you.

Not sure why you dragged this up again but...

You might want to change that agreement document again. Not all 3-clause BSD 
licenses are "new style". Similarly, not all 4-clause BSD licenses are "old 
style".
A 3-clause license with the advertising clause isn't "new style". Just 
include the license text or a URL (I got the printed agreement from Micheal 
and it just said BSD license).

Second, for completeness

Ter:
> [SNIP]W/o a change to 3 clause license, I'll be forced to consider 
> throwing out  the
> C# target and going a different route.

Kunle:
> As you wish.

Ter:
> License issues have really bitten me in the past with my users.

Kunle:
> You've failed to identify any real issue with the current license so far.
> You seemed unaware of the content of the last clause in the license in 
> your
> reply to Micheal.

Ter:
> * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this
> software
> *    must display the following acknowledgement:
> *    This product includes software developed by the University of
> *    California, Berkeley and its contributors.
>
> In this case, you want to any material using ANTLR C# target to put a
> note in their advertisement that they use ANTLR C# target?  An
> unpalatable restriction to some which is why we've all removed it and
> I've got rest of project using BSD w/o that.
> [SNIP...]
> Seems unfair to taint
> entire product with such a restriction.
> That clause means no one will mention your work
> because they'd have to add that clause.  Means lawyers get afraid
> etc...  I'm sure you're aware of my 20 years of listening to people
> whine to me about my software licenses.  My concerns are not idle
> lawyer paranoia.
>
> May I please change the license to not require users to mention ANTLR
> C# target in their advertisement?

Kunle:
> The license has no such clause or requirement.

Kunle:
> Have you read the license?


I thinks that's a good summary of the thread.

Just to be clear, the C# target and templates (which are a part of ANTLR) 
have always been under the same license as the rest of the ANTLR codebase.

For the runtime, I used the BSD license from LICENSE.TXT file in ST# [we 
screwed up and the ST# source files ended up with a different BSD license 
but we're okay with either - they're both BSD, both "new style" BSD ;-) ].

You may include or dump some or, all of the C# bits in line with the BSD 
license.

Kunle

_______________________________________________
antlr-dev mailing list
[email protected]
http://www.antlr.org:8080/mailman/listinfo/antlr-dev

Reply via email to