On May 12, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Terence Parr wrote:

> Wow. This is really weird, because that is my exact setup!
> 
> OH! Duh.I am not looking at the console. I'm an idiot. doh! ok, what is the 
> suggested solution? I'm sure I can fix it for Jean.   as Jim suggests, you 
> can simply turn up the delay  for the grammar analysis. I guess it should 
> simply not spit out any errors at all and simply highlight the elements in 
> the grammar text, right?
> 
> Ter
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Ter:

This is a problem with human interface design, and humans are notoriously error 
prone and impatient which makes human interface design very difficult. What 
typically happens with me is ANTLRWorks starts up with the Syntax Diagram 
display, I do an extensive edit, ask it to Generate Code, it tells me there are 
errors and to check the Console, I go there to see the errors and they start 
scrolling off the screen as it continues to report errors due to intermediate 
changes that have not fixed the error I am working on. Turning up the delay is 
an unintuitive kluge that will continually cause problems for newbys. Also 
ANTLRWorks became less stable after this behavior appeared and less responsive. 
Could the error reporting be keeping track of more state than earlier versions?

Think about what you want from the console and even if you want the console. 
Can the functionality be put in the Interpreter or Debugger? A keyboard command 
to go to the next error could work well in another window.

If you had a mode that distinguished errors and only errors that might be good. 
For me highlighting is already being overused. Why do you need to visually 
distinguish minor aspects of syntax? Particularly when most syntactic elements 
are already distinguished by capitalization rules. How do the color blind deal 
with it?

How is ANTLRWorks deciding  when to check for errors? From Jim's comment it 
sounds as if it checks if a given interval has passed since the last keystroke. 
I would instead check either after a command to check, or after one of a finite 
set of keystrokes i.e. a carriage return or a space that would not normally be 
associated with changing an ANTLR lexical item. I would make checking after 
those keystrokes a user selectable preference. I would never check after a 
delete or the entry of a printable character.


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