It supprised me also. I had switched to Intel because of cost but lately I've switch 
back to Sun. It would be interesting to compare numbers between a Compaq and Dell. You 
would think they would be similar but I think there is a great deal of difference 
between a $400 2.8 gig P4 and an $800 2.8 gig P4. I did switch from Dell to Sun, but I 
never did any detailed beachmarking. My informal testing made me think the Sun was as 
fast or faster.

I've run on Intel (Windows and Linux), OSX and Sun. The great thing about AOLServer is 
you can switch platforms with very little effort. I've even developed on Sun and 
deployed on Windows with no problems.

I did look up the wattage on the Sun and Compaq and they are similar. I suspect the 
Sparc chip uses less power but by the time you run the rest of the stuff inside the 
machine there is not much difference. The X1/V100's are a different story. I think 
they use around 30 watts, but it probably takes 5 to 10 of them to equal a v240.

Whatever you pick take a look at the Apple Xraid. 3.5 terabytes and fibre channel for 
10K is a good deal and they work just fine with a v240 and Solaris. I even used 
Apple's fibre channel card in the Sun box. Rumor has it they also work with Linux. Not 
only are the cheap per gig I think they beat scsi on performance because for the same 
price you can get nearly 3x the number of spindles while scsi only has 2x the rotation 
speed.

Barry

On Thursday, June 24, 2004, at 02:04PM, Bas Scheffers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Adam Leff said:
>> The Sun V240 is a 2x1Ghz UltraSparcIIIi running Sol9... I didn't have a
>> 1.28Ghz box available at the time I was doing the tests.  The DL 360 is
>> a 2x2.8Ghz Xeon.  The Proliant is a 2x3.2Ghz Xeon.  All with 2 GB of
>Wow, that's closer than I thought! Mind you, you can get a 2x
>3.2GHz/2GB/2x73GB15K machine for a lot less from Dell than from HP/Compaq.
>
>But in the end, I guess when you buy brands, it doesn't seem to matter
>much in price if you go with Sun or any other. I wonder if these 1GHz Suns
>also need less juice and stay cooler. Not an unimportant consideration;
>apperantly Google settled on 1GHz machines for their Ireland data centre
>for that same reason as they could fit more machines in and thus have more
>CPU power in total.
>
>> RAM.  So yes, you could argue that the Proliant results are possible
>> skewed because of the difference in processor speed.
>And cache? That 2.8 probably has 512K, the 3.2 likely 1MB, possibly 2.
>
>Bas.
>
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