On Monday 07 February 2005 03:42, Dossy Shiobara wrote:
> If we had so many active developers and contributors that a few of us
> could just go off in the weeds and play with "wouldn't it be cool if"
> type of ideas, I'd be the first to suggest this kind of a code-fork or
> branching pattern, to keep them from mucking with the mainline code that
> everyone else has to deal with.
>
> But, we don't.  Yet.  How do we get there?

I still do believe that there should be a path/vision established
which will then justify acceptance or rejection of future ideas or
ideas already sitting in the RFE queue.
Some of them (and we all really do know what I'm talking about,
don't we?) do not seem to fit in the direction where you (or AOL)
would like to see the project evolving. What Vlad is basically saying
is to give/define this direction and let people decide wether they
will follow it or not. At the moment the picture is not very clear,
hence the wait-and-see approach which does block progress.

What I mean is: AS is already pretty stable env. There are open issues
but they have been taken care of, mostly thanks to your engagement,
which is A Very Good Thing.
Nevertheless, new developments seem to concentrate to a specific
pattern (make the fast even faster) which may or may not reflect the
needs of the current AS users.
And current AS users is what this project has now. Instead of getting
new ones in, how about activating already present people (there are
quite a few of them listed in SF as developers)?

I can't speak for others, but I can speak for myself...
This is how I see things:

What I appreciate about AS is its stability, Tcl integration level
and infrastructure allowing me to write concurrent applications
with ease. The AS speaking the http protocol is nice, but not the
main reason why I'm using it. Before I can do more for the project
(mainly core dev stuff, I believe) I must know that I'm not riding
a dead horse. If the AS heads to being even-faster http-server, then
this is not something for me (=dead horse) and I have to look
elsewhere. I do not have the problem with this. Allright, this will
cost me time and money, but this I will have to accept. If I would
be asked, then I'd rate versatility before raw speed.

Basically, the "vision statement" is pretty much important for quite
a few folks arround here, I believe.
It is really: where do you want to go today?

Zoran


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