On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 04:25:46PM -0500, Dossy Shiobara wrote: > > Let's admit it, AS will never get so popular as apache or IIS and all > > efforts for making it popular without something that will > > differentiate it from apache is waste of time. > > Maybe I'm deluded, but I'm not ready to admit this yet. Just as we > learned about the web browser war ... the web server war is far from > over.
This raises another thought. Dossy wants AOLserver to be much more popular than it is. Ok, what is most likely to cause that? Simple: One or more killer apps that happen to use AOLserver. Think about it this way, what percentage of AOLserver's popularity is entirely due to ACS/OpenACS? A big chunk, I bet. And OpenACS never became hugely popular, but it what if it had? AOLserver popularlity would have rode with it. And OpenACS is an example of just ONE potential AOLserver-using killer app. How many COULD there be? LOTS! Here's the ironic bit: Where could these new killer apps come from? Quite possibly, from projects like those using Stepen D.'s or Vlad's patches for multi-protocol support (using Asterisk, etc.) - which the AOLserver maintainer has been blocking. Or from some other entirely different enhancement to AOLserver, which will never be contributed because AOLserver has a pretty strong record of rejecting (or worse, ignoring) any such contributions. Oops, no more killer app! Just this week, a bunch of OpenACS folks were discussing (yet again) how to sell OpenACS into Apache shops. Technically, the two major proposals boiled down to: 1. Add FastCGI support to AOLserver. (Then AOLserver can be used as "just" another application server running behind Apache, just like the Java application servers, etc. that lots of Apache shops already run.) 2. Work on portable.nsd a lot more. (Use it with Apache, no AOLserver involved at all.) Here's the kicker: The guy who'd probably do most of the work, John Sequeira, seems to think that option 1. is a better idea technically, but is leaning towards 2. instead, because after following the AOLserver multi-protocol discussions, he doubts that any FastCGI work would ever be accepted by the AOLserver maintainers, no matter what! http://openacs.org/forums/message-view?message%5fid=263944 That looks symptomatic of a problem in how the AOLserver codebase is managed to me. Dossy, doesn't it look that way to you too? -- Andrew Piskorski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.piskorski.com/ -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
