On Monday 07 February 2005 22:55, Dossy Shiobara wrote: > On 2005.02.07, Bernd Eidenschink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It was very very sad, e.g. that it took years to incorporate one of > > the different approaches for encodings/charsets that have been around > > (from aD and others), or that lengthy discussions (e.g. the "Support > > for non-HTTP protocols" back in August 2004) are left open without a > > result. > > I think the reason behind both issues is because the proposed > contributions weren't that great. I'm sure this statement tweaks a lot > of people, but I think it's the truth.
Dossy, The truth is that contributors tried to be as non-invasive as possible, changing as little as possible in the core (I'm talking about multi-protocol patches from Stephen and Vlad). This *has* it's price. Radical changes, hey, be honest, even smallish changes, to the server have been often opposed, hence few really developed motivation to participate. You can argue on why is this so, but this is *de-facto* the current picture (see below). > > The upside is that in 4.1.x, expect to see a better way of handling the > whole encoding/charset mess, along with better support for non-HTTP > protocols in the core. Done right. (Yes, it's another major > contribution from Jim Davidson.) "Done right". Hm... Jim has the knowledge, experience and will and I admire and respect his work immensely (he knows that). And I'm sure that he's done it good, without even looking into it. But what your're actually impliying is: others are doing it wrong! I cannot accept this. If you give somebody a bicycle, you can't expect him to drive 100 mph. Means: given such strains on core changes, what do you expect? Jim has/takes the freedom to turn inside-out the whole thing (personally, I have no problem with this, quite the opposite in fact) Others have to fight to their teeth to get something in. Hm... IOW: obstacles (real, psychological, whatever) have prevented or discouraged (are preventing and discouraging) some of the good guys outside of AOL. Look: current core development (list of people in ChangeLog from the entire year 2004): 1. Jim Davidson (AOL): radical architectural chanes (numerous instances) 2. Dossy Shiobara (AOL): fixing bugs, minor tweaks (numerous instances) 3. Nathan Folkman (AOL): fixing bugs (1 instance) 4. Rob Crittenden (AOL): minor tweaks (3 instances) 5. Zoran Vasiljevic: fixing bugs, minor tweaks (3 instance) So, what do we have: 4 persons from AOL, 2 of them being very active 1 (stubborn) community member AS is effectively being developed by 2 people: Jim and yourself. What about others? How are we going to attract more "beautiful minds"? Hm? Zoran -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.
