The following reply was made to PR general/5336; it has been noted by GNATS.
From: Eric Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Marc Slemko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Apache bugs database <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: general/5336: Apache process hangs, and parent will not die. Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:14:00 -0800 (PST) On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Marc Slemko wrote: > On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Eric Fisher wrote: > > > I think I was a little mistaken. Actually, it seems that in most cases > > the parent dies. Its the children that won't die. > > Are you using NFS? Yes, but we are only serving NFS, there are no NFS mounts on this server > > So are you saying you can't kill the children, even with a kill -9? Correct, kill -9 does nothing to the children. They just hang there until a reboot. > > > > > Also, we've already tried this same configureation using linux 2.2.12. > > We originally had this problem with 2.2.12, thats why we upgraded. > > Interesting. You may want to try going back further. hmm...possibly. > > > > > Have you heard of any similar problems like this with people trying to use > > the 2.2.x kernel? > > Many. > > I have seen a half dozen reports over the past two months of behaviour > similar to yours. While there have been cases in the past when such > things have been tracked down to problems in Apache, they have been > rare. This sudden splurge of bug reports has also only started very > recently, and they all have the common denominator of running a recent > 2.2.x kernel. > > I don't know how flexible you are or what other factors you have to take > into consideration, but I would strongly suggest trying moving to a > different kernel. What different kernel? Good question. Maybe an early > 2.2 one, maybe a 2.1 one, maybe all the way back to the current 2.0 one. > Unfortunately I can't really make much in the way of recommendations > there. Ouch...I'd hope that we would have to go back to a pre 2.2 kernel. > > You could, just for something to do, try disabling SMP. If it does seem to be a problem in the kernel, do you have any ideas as who to contact next? We'll give the SMP thing a try. Maybe it'll work. I'll let you know. -Eric > > > > > > > On 18 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > [In order for any reply to be added to the PR database, ] > > > [you need to include <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in the Cc line ] > > > [and leave the subject line UNCHANGED. This is not done] > > > [automatically because of the potential for mail loops. ] > > > [If you do not include this Cc, your reply may be ig- ] > > > [nored unless you are responding to an explicit request ] > > > [from a developer. ] > > > [Reply only with text; DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS! ] > > > > > > > > > Synopsis: Apache process hangs, and parent will not die. > > > > > > State-Changed-From-To: open-feedback > > > State-Changed-By: marc > > > State-Changed-When: Thu Nov 18 12:28:42 PST 1999 > > > State-Changed-Why: > > > Try running an older, more stable kernel. We have had lots > > > of reports of similar things from people, with the common > > > factor being that thay are using 2.2.13 or something similar. > > > > > > There may well be some problem in the kernel you are running > > > that causes this. > > > > > > If you have to restart the machine (and I presume you mean > > > reboot) to fix it, then there is no way that this can be > > > entirely an Apache problem. > > > > > >
