If I went BSD I'd go with Mac OS X or OpenBSD.
-- Joshua Levitsky, MCSE, CISSP System Engineer Time Inc. Information Technology [5957 F27C 9C71 E9A7 274A 0447 C9B9 75A4 9B41 D4D1]
----- Original Message ----- From: "Luis Soltero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Apache-FP] Fedora Core 1
Hello All,
Like all of you I am sitting here with an Old RH system and FP wondering what to do. I am about to build a new server and can't decide which route to go. After spending another all nighter looking at options my thinking is that maybe FreeBSD is the best choice. Can you anyone comment on this? It seems the FP runs fine on this platform.
Here are some of my rumblings... Please comment.
I have now researched all my Linux server options and I am not happy
with any of them. I really would like Open System based service with reliable support and the
only Linux company that does that is Mandrake. Unfortuanely I keep hearing
rumors of Mandrakes financial woes. People keep telling me that Mandrake
is in Chaper 11. Any truth to this? Well there is also
Fedora but we are still waiting to see how that pans out... There is also
Geentoo which looks great for a non-production system but it would never
consider it for a server (their continuous upgrade approach is interesting).
Not sure about debian... I do know that most (all) colo facilities avoid it. why?
Licensing restrictions? Looking at the debian web site, debian looks like a good
product with a clean and simple upgrade path, good support, and lots of
packages, and no question about it's long term plans given that it is the
GNU linux distribution. I did notice that last Nov, 4 of their major distribution machines
were broken into and rootkited shutting down the entire enterprise.
This does not inspire confidence. Interesting
reading though. Check out www.debian.org for information on the break in.
I really don't like the RH and SUSE approach to things. Not to mention that they are expensive and they don't have clear upgrade paths for their products. I did notice that SUSE/Novell now have set up a legal fund to protect their customers against the SCO law suit. I guess they have to do this to continue to attract customers.
It looks like FreeBSD is the answer. I notice that a lot of the data centers
that were providing RH are now switching to FreeBSD. I see why. It
has wonderful single source open community support. Unlike Linux where
you have a pile of different companies providing their own Linux distro
FreeBSD is a single Open Source development. Everything is done
at www.freebsd.org. There are no other companies doing integration.
They have a very good upgrade path and provide stable version of their
OS for ISP and company servers. The system is secure and it has
an easy and good mechanism for providing updates.
For large corporations FreeBSD get's them away from the SCO UNIX Sys V vs Linux issues. I just noticed that SCO has the letters it sent to Linux users on their web site... What a mess. Check out www.caldera.com if you get bored and have a free moment.
From a server standpoint I really like what I see so far of FreeBSD.
Not sure that FreeBSD is the right choice for a work station however. I think there is better support in the Linux community for devices. Well for one the Linux community is much larger although there are more than 10,000 packages ported to FreeBSD and I may be totally off base here. Anyway, VMware will only run on Linux so it's a mute point for me.
So... I will probably go with SUSE Pro for my office machine and FreeBSD for all my servers.
--luis
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On 1/28/2004 at 3:54 PM Joshua Levitsky wrote:
Hello all... I just wanted to say that today I decided to actually try Fedora Core 1 and I was very surprised.
* up2date is free * up2date can update the entire OS to the next core release without re-install * apt-get exists for Fedora and can update packages super-fast * update from Red Hat 9 went smooooth
And last but not least....
Apache Frontpage works awesome....
I will be posting documentation tonight on the install. Look for my site to be redone by tomorrow. It will be based on Fedora Core 1 and I'll link to the Mandrake doc that Floyd wrote that is very good and will be very similar to my doc.
For anyone that is nervous about Fedora... just use Mandrake or even Debian. I will make a short Debian doc because Debian is the future for me.
-- Joshua Levitsky, MCSE, CISSP System Engineer Time Inc. Information Technology [5957 F27C 9C71 E9A7 274A 0447 C9B9 75A4 9B41 D4D1]
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