On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Sally Khudairi <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone --thanks for your patience on this; I've been on deadline all > day and have only now had a chance to get to the edit. > > If the following meets your approval, we'll update the CFP (and supporting > marketing) as soon as possible: > > "Enterprise Messaging & Integration –-common problems, solutions, and best > practices with various Apache SOA/infrastructure projects, including > ActiveMQ, Camel, Qpid, ServiceMix, Shindig, Synapse, Thrift, Tuscany, and > more."
looks good, thanks Sally ! > > > Suggestions, comments welcome! If I'm barking up the wrong tree or > misunderstood the original issue, do let me know :-) > > Cheers & chat soon, > Sally > > + and thanks, Sagara, for bringing this up! > > ________________________________ > From: Sally Khudairi <[email protected]> > To: Ryan Baxter <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 9:56 > > Subject: Re: ApacheCon N/A tracks - Messaging or Enterprise Integration > track ? > > OK; please understand that there's a very strong chance that this list will > be shortened to 5-7 projects. It's not going to be inclusive for the CFP, as > space is limited. > > Here's exactly how the PMCs can help: promote the CFP and let your community > know how they can participate! > > I'll ping y'all once we've got the edits up online. I'll tweet about this as > well. > > Cheers, > Sally > > > ________________________________ > From: Ryan Baxter <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: Sally Khudairi <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 9:19 > Subject: Re: ApacheCon N/A tracks - Messaging or Enterprise Integration > track ? > > I will add Shindig to the list as well. > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Sagara Gunathunga > <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Steve Holden <[email protected]> wrote: >> Sagara: >> >> Could name some other projects that you think would be suitable for >> inclusion in the "messaging" track? > > In my POV following projects are suitable for above track considering > integration also under this track. > > Synapse > ServiceMix > Tuscany > Etch > Thrift > Avro > ActiveMQ > Qpid > > You also can find some other suggestion from here [1] > > [1] - > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201206.mbox/%[email protected]%3E > > Thanks ! > > >> >> regards >> Steve >> >> On Oct 15, 2012, at 11:03 PM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Steve Holden <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> On Oct 14, 2012, at 1:12 AM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote: >>>> >>>>> There was a concern raised by some people including myself during the >>>>> EU CFP time to have a Messaging or Enterprise Integration track >>>>> instead of allocating a track completely to a single messing project. >>>>> At that time we were too late to raise those issues and also had been >>>>> informed that the track chairs are always ready to accept "related" >>>>> talks if they looks good but looking at EU schedule I can see one >>>>> messing project got number of slots and it's hard to see any other >>>>> talks from messaging related projects on same track. >>>>> >>>>> Now we are in CFP for N/A event and still I can't see Messaging or >>>>> Enterprise Integration track instead what I can see is again possible >>>>> messaging track is allocated for a specific messaging project in same >>>>> as EU event. In case If we have enough space I'm very positive to have >>>>> more tracks like "General Messaging" and another track for a specific >>>>> messaging project but If we don't have enough space why can't we make >>>>> a general messaging track so that number of messaging related projects >>>>> can submit their talks and cover more scope/community ? >>>>> >>>> Thanks. In the case of North America, this is probably mostly due to our >>>> relative ignorance of the Apache "ecosphere". So I am very glad you have >>>> raised the issue. If you can suggest changes to the CfP to make it more >>>> inclusive of a wider range we would be grateful for your help. We want to >>>> give all projects the opportunity to showcase their work. >>> >>> Thanks for your kind response, I'm happy to help out in area of my >>> expertise. As I mentioned in my previous mail this is my suggestion. >>> >>> If we have enough space and enough people to handle more tracks please >>> add a new track called "Messaging", there are considerable number of >>> projects available under this category. In case if we don't have >>> enough space or people better to rename "Camel in Action" as a >>> "Messaging" track so that other messaging related projects also can >>> submit their talks under this track instead of limiting to a specific >>> project. >>> >>> Thanks ! >>> >>>> >>>>> Taking a different example I always think "Big data" is the ideal name >>>>> for a track instead calling it using a specific big data project name. >>>>> As I involved organizing number of Apache events in Asia from 2009 I >>>>> don't have any concern about impartiality of organizers, also I can >>>>> understand the difficulty with EU event with time but clearly in NA >>>>> event we have enough time to make changes so that event/tracks will >>>>> cover wide range of projects and get wider community attraction. >>>>> Finally I expect N/A organizers will consider my comments in a >>>>> positive manner. >>>>> >>>> We certainly do regard such input as positive, and stand ready to hear >>>> your (and everybody else's) suggestions for improving the CfP and making >>>> the >>>> conference more welcoming to a broader section of the Apache community. >>>> >>>>> Thanks ! >>>>> >>>> And thank *you*. >>>> >>>> regards >>>> Steve >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sagara Gunathunga >>>>> >>>>> Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com >>>>> Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ >>>>> LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Steve Holden [email protected], Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ >>>> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ >>>> Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ >>>> Next: Helping with ApacheCon EU (community edition) http://apachecon.eu/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sagara Gunathunga >>> >>> Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com >>> Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ >>> LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara >> >> -- >> Steve Holden [email protected], Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ >> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ >> Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ >> Next: Helping with ApacheCon EU (community edition) http://apachecon.eu/ >> >> >> > > > > -- > Sagara Gunathunga > > Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com > Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ > LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara > > > > > > -- Sagara Gunathunga Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/ LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara
