On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 12-10-23, at 03:59 , Christian Grobmeier <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Honestly (and sorry to say), if I attend a conference and pay the full >> price, I would be more than disappointed if the presenter is not in >> the same room as me. I can watch youtube videos without wasting my >> money. I am not the conference expert, but I doubt there are (many) >> other conferences using remote presentations. >> >> Cheers >> Christian >> > We are not or at any rate I am not discussing "youtube videos". We are or I > am discussing videoconferencing. One is static, the other is not; one > provides for direct query and interaction, the other does not. > > I dislike rhetorical posturing. I do not engage in it.
Sorry if you found this is rhetorical. I don't think so. Actually the quality of video conferencing for me is just a little better than youtube. Despite the problems which might occur with techniques, it is not the same to have somebody in the same room as on the monitor. If I want to attent a web conference, I would do. There are many possibilities to organize something like that, including Google Hangouts. This usually does only have less or no cost. I have attended some trainings which were online with only 10 people and it was always pretty horrible to communicate with the trainer. How should asking questions work in the conference? Does somebody who has a question need to go to a phone line to ask it? Sorry, but I actually expect the video conferencing idea to become something like a youtube video. A regular ticket top the ApacheCon costs € 600.00. For that I expect speakers to be in the same room. If I liked the talk I want to speak with them afterwards. I want to share a beer with them. A conference is also around community interaction and networking. I simply expect that when I pay so much money. This all is not possible with a phone and a camera. I leave it up to the more experienced planners here, but I do not support this approach as I cannot imagine any good out of this. As sad as it is, but if the speakers are not able to come to Germany I consider it better to change talks. Cheers Christian > > > Louis > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Steve Holden <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Andrea: >>> >>> Apparently we don't have any guarantees on quality of service, so we are >>> suggesting that speakers who wish to try this route should prepare a video >>> for use if the remote presentation doesn't work out. >>> >>> I presume that no special room set-up will be needed for these talks except >>> audio connection to the computer that's used to display the call? >>> >>> regards >>> Steve >>> >>> On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> >>>> As discussed on the ooo-dev list >>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/ we have >>>> several speakers from China (all in the OpenOffice track, it seems) who >>>> are facing delays in getting a visa to Germany for ApacheCon. >>>> >>>> A suggestion from Louis Suárez-Potts is to allow teleconferencing: >>>> speakers who cannot be physically in Germany would still be able to give >>>> their presentation as an online seminar. >>>> >>>> Would this be possible with the current infrastructure in Sinsheim? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Andrea. >>> >>> -- >>> Steve Holden [email protected], Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ >>> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ >>> Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ >>> Next: Helping with ApacheCon EU (community edition) http://apachecon.eu/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> https://www.timeandbill.de > -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de
