If I had understood this better perhaps I would have submitted a talk for both 
the Big Data and the Core conference.  But, as Pierre says, it is associated 
with Big Data. So certainly it belongs there and would target the audience 
focused on the Hadoop ecosystem.  It would be interesting to see what the 
tracks and schedules for both eventually look like and what the attendee 
overlap is between the two conferences. 

Rohit

On Jul 1, 2015, at 6:33 AM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote:



> On 1 July 2015 at 13:23, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jan,
> 
> Could you please elaborate on your statements? Do you disagree that a 
> Trafodion talk fits with Apache BD? And that you rather have it in ApacheCon, 
> as you expect that so many other talks in that stream will get rejected so 
> that the Trafodion talk will get accepted? I am getting confused here...

I worded it carefully, because this is not my decision, that is a decision the 
project must make. I was merely stating the differences.

We (being the reviewers) should be very careful not to have real opinions where 
a talk belongs. We review the talk where it is submitted. That said for CORE
I know of a handful of talks where I will ask (not tell) the author if they 
prefer to submit it to big data.

At the moment I have no idea where we will land with the scheduling, I dont 
even have all the tracks in my head. I have learned that if I try  to do 
reviewing and
scheduling it tends to become unfair like:
when reviewing talk foo....hmmmm we already have too many talks from that 
projects, so better reject it.

instead I review, only thinking of the single talk. And then once we all have 
reviewed, then I start building the schedule.

hope that clears your confusion.
rgds
jan I.
 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Pierre Smits
> 
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>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:02 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, July 1, 2015, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jan,
>>> 
>>> I would say that it excellently fits into the Apache BD stream, as it is 
>>> closely related to Big Data products like Apache Hadoop, Apache Hive, 
>>> Apache Zookeeper, Apache Ambari and others.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I will leave it up to Rohit to decide whether to move it to ApacheCon or 
>>> leave it as it is. But it seems to me that the ApacheCon is already a bit 
>>> overcrowded. As outlined elswhere by Roman the Trafodion  podling can opt 
>>> for a pitch in the Incubator track to promote itself to other projects' 
>>> contributors to build its community.
>> 
>> It need to be a bit crowded, because some talks get rejected.
>> 
>> Incubator is a priority at Core not at big data, but anyhow we are past the 
>> deadline.
>> 
>> rgds
>> jan i
>>  
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Pierre Smits
>>> 
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>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:32 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> he has, but it looks a bit as if he should have submitted it to apacheCON 
>>>> CORE, as part of the incubator.
>>>> 
>>>> We cannot move it, but he can if he wants to.
>>>> 
>>>> Also please be aware that we are not building tracks for big data.
>>>> 
>>>> rgds
>>>> jan i.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 30 June 2015 at 21:00, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can you verify that Rohit Jain has submitted his talk for Apache Big Data?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pierre Smits
>>>>> 
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