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> From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > Subject: Apertium-stuff Digest, Vol 47, Issue 3 > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 12:33 PM > Send Apertium-stuff mailing list > submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of Apertium-stuff digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Problem with trasnfer rule in > en-es (Miquel Espl?) > 2. Re: Problem with trasnfer rule in > en-es (Francis Tyers) > 3. Re: Apertium-stuff Digest, Vol 47, > Issue 2 (Aish Raj Dahal) > 4. Re: Problem with trasnfer rule in > en-es (Miquel Espl?) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:44:51 +0100 > From: Miquel Espl? <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] Problem with trasnfer rule in > en-es > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi everybody again, > > I've been studying a little bit more the transfer rules for > the genitive in > the pair en-es and I found this: > > <rule> > <pattern> > <pattern-item n="apos"/> > <pattern-item n="any"/> > <pattern-item > n="aposgen"/> > </pattern> > <action> > <out> > > <lu><clip pos="1" side="tl" > part="whole"/></lu> > <b > pos="1"/> > > <lu><clip pos="2" side="tl" > part="whole"/></lu> > <!-- Remove > the space - it was added by pretransfer --> > <lu><lit > v="'"/><lit-tag v="apos"/></lu> > </out> > </action> > </rule> > > "apos" represents the symbol "'" and "aposgen" means both > "'" and "'s". I > understand that this rule removes the second super-blank > because the > pre-transfer adds an extra space between "any" and > "aposgen", but, why the > pattern of the rule is "apos"-"any"-"aposgen"? I think it > should be > "apos"-"any"-"gen" ("gen" is the symbol to represent > "'s"). > > I hope anybody can help me. Thanks a lot, > > Miquel. > > > El 2 de mar? de 2011 13:45, Miquel Espl? <[email protected]> > ha escrit: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to translate a text file in English into > Spanish. I have seen > > that, if I have a text like: > > > > ' > > > > whatever > > > > ' > > > > Apertium translates it as: > > > > ' > > > > Cualquier cosa.' > > > > I need the second ' to remain in the line in which it > was placed in the > > original text. I guess that is a problem with the > transfer rules for the > > genitive, but I'm not able to solve the problem. Could > anybody help me with > > this? > > > > Tanks in advance. Cheers, > > > > Miquel. > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:07:28 +0000 > From: Francis Tyers <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] Problem with trasnfer rule in > en-es > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > And if you try: > > ' > > whatever. > > ' > > ? > > Fran > > El dc 02 de 03 de 2011 a les 13:45 +0100, en/na Miquel > Espl? va > escriure: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to translate a text file in English into > Spanish. I have > > seen that, if I have a text like: > > > > ' > > > > whatever > > > > ' > > > > Apertium translates it as: > > > > ' > > > > Cualquier cosa.' > > > > I need the second ' to remain in the line in which it > was placed in > > the original text. I guess that is a problem with the > transfer rules > > for the genitive, but I'm not able to solve the > problem. Could anybody > > help me with this? > > > > Tanks in advance. Cheers, > > > > Miquel. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Free Software Download: Index, Search & Analyze > Logs and other IT data in > > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness all > the fast moving IT data > > generated by your applications, servers and devices > whether physical, virtual > > or in the cloud. Deliver compliance at lower cost and > gain new business > > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > Apertium-stuff mailing list [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 06:12:40 +0530 > From: Aish Raj Dahal <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] Apertium-stuff Digest, Vol > 47, Issue 2 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:24 AM, < > [email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > 2011/3/2 Francis Tyers <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > 4] http://nlp.ku.edu.np/cgi-bin/dobhase > > > > > > We sent a letter to the Dobhase people a few > years ago, asking if they > > > would free their stuff. We had some early > success, but there was some > > > trouble when they started squabbling over > licences. Jacob Nordfalk will > > > have more information on this. > > > > > > > > > >As far as I remember we (Apertium) sent an > official letter to the > > developers > > >of dobhase and they were very positive to the > idea, but they insisted that > > >the sponsors of the funding should approve the > open sourcing. I think they > > >sent a letter about it and then evrything stalled. > Probably you could, > > with > > >some effort, push to a start again. > > > > I guess by now the sponsorship of the project that was > funded by > the Canadian Government is over, the Kathmandu University > holds rights to > it. I shall get in touch with the developers of the Dobhase > project and let > you know if any progress is made in the direction of > releasing it under > GNU/GPL . :) > > > > > > > > > > > This much done, I feel that I still need to > doubt my knowledge about > > > > the process and need to ask myself "Where to > start from" (PS I have > > > > been through the Add new Language Pair HOW > TO). > > > > > > You've been through the New Language Pair HOWTO > and didn't ask any > > > questions ? Did you understand _all_ of it ? > > > > > > > >Time to come to the chat ;-) > > >Look for Francis' nick name 'spectie'. > > > > Will surely come to chat more often. In fact as far as I > remember, it was > 'specite' who helped me perform my first checkout from SVN. > It was a tough > job due to my current Institution based Squid Proxy. And > yes, as I wrote up > in the IRC channel once, understanding the HOW TO itself is > a sort of > challenge for a layman like me, so I've been through it a > couple of times > trying to get the things into my help and Googled up a > million times just > to familiarize myself with the linguistic terms. > > > > > > > > PS. Kind of surprised you didn't find any of the > resources for Hindi and > > > Nepali in the Apertium SVN. > > > > > > > >Ah, come on, lets help the man. We have a lot of > resurces, no wonder he > > >doesent find it all by himself :-) > > > > >Esperanto-Nepali > > > > > https://apertium.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/apertium/incubator/apertium-eo-ne.eo-ne.dix > > > > >English-Nepali > > > > > https://apertium.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/apertium/incubator/apertium-ne-en/ > > > > >Installation: > > >http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Minimal_installation_from_SVN > > > > > > Thank you very much for providing these resources, > although I had myself > > bumped into them already but didn't mention them in > the original post as I > > wanted to explore more stuff related to ne-hi pair > outside the SVN. > > > Once again thank you,( both of you) for giving your > valuable time to guide > me. :) > See you again in the IRC Channel . > (Also, this is my first time in a mailing list. If I have > broken up any > rules about how to post, sorry.) > > > > -- > Aishraj Dahal > Bachelor's of Technology > Computer Science and Engineering > National Institute of Technology Warangal > India Dear Asish jee Thank you for your interest on apertium. I have done some work on English Nepali mapping rules too. Here is an example of TAM customization. http://wiki.apertium.org/wiki/Nepali_and_English Laxmi > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 08:03:22 +0100 > From: Miquel Espl? <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] Problem with trasnfer rule in > en-es > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Apertium translates: > > ' > > Cualquier cosa..' > > You can check it in translator.prompsit.com, which, in > theory, uses the > dictionaries in trunk of the SVN. > > Miquel. > > 2011/3/2 Francis Tyers <[email protected]> > > > And if you try: > > > > ' > > > > whatever. > > > > ' > > > > ? > > > > Fran > > > > El dc 02 de 03 de 2011 a les 13:45 +0100, en/na Miquel > Espl? va > > escriure: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm trying to translate a text file in English > into Spanish. I have > > > seen that, if I have a text like: > > > > > > ' > > > > > > whatever > > > > > > ' > > > > > > Apertium translates it as: > > > > > > ' > > > > > > Cualquier cosa.' > > > > > > I need the second ' to remain in the line in > which it was placed in > > > the original text. I guess that is a problem with > the transfer rules > > > for the genitive, but I'm not able to solve the > problem. Could anybody > > > help me with this? > > > > > > Tanks in advance. Cheers, > > > > > > Miquel. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Free Software Download: Index, Search & > Analyze Logs and other IT data in > > > Real-Time with Splunk. Collect, index and harness > all the fast moving IT > > data > > > generated by your applications, servers and > devices whether physical, > > virtual > > > or in the cloud. 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