More comments below: Could you give more details of what was done with the Hebrew analyser generated from Hspell ? E.g. which categories have been generated, how many entries, what coverage etc. Also, do you think you will have time to add the verbs ?
I think perhaps it would be worth noting that the pair will be unidirectional (Maltese→Hebrew). I would be interested in seeing some small evaluation of existing MT systems for mt-he (e.g. Google translate) and their strong points and weaknesses... How do you think a rule-based system based on Apertium might compare ? Could you justify the text. I think it would look nicer in LaTeX, but if Libre/Open/...Office is your thing, then that's ok. I'll ask again, will you use separate frequency lists and then take the intersection via the bilingual dictionary ? Or will you just use one list ? You have allocated three weeks to making bilingual dictionary entries. How many entries do you think you can do per hour ? How many does this add up to over this period ? Again, no info on the parallel corpora. The Bible is usually a popular source of parallel text -- although very restricted domain -- but do they bother to translate the whole Bible into Hebrew ? ex. Fil-bidu Alla halaq is-sema u l-art בראשית ברא אלהים את השמים ואת הארץ Bereishit bara Elohim et hashamayim ve'et ha'aretz. Fil-bidu = Bereishit Alla = Elohim halaq = bara sema = shamayim art = aretz etc. What do you consider to be "Desirable coverage" ? Thanks again! Fran El dl 04 de 04 de 2011 a les 00:39 +0300, en/na Sagie Maoz va escriure: > Hi, > > > Thanks Francis for the comments and guidance. > > > I have updated my application draft for my project with regards to > most of your notes. > I am still unclear about the implications of using hand-tagged corpora > for both languages, and would love a clarification. For my work plan, > I used past years' applications as reference. > > > I have also added a part about my research and collected resources, > especially in regards to morphological analysers for both languages. > > > Please find my application available > at http://sagie.maoz.info/apertium-application.pdf. > It would be great to get more comments or suggestions from anyone. > > > Thanks, > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Francis Tyers <[email protected]> > wrote: > El dg 03 de 04 de 2011 a les 01:15 +0300, en/na Sagie Maoz va > escriure: > > Dear All, > > > > > > I'm happy to attach my application draft for a GSoC project, > a > > Maltese-Hebrew language pair. > > I will be happy to hear your thoughts and comments, > particularly on > > when should I submit it at the Google Melange site. > > > > > > Please find my application available > > at http://sagie.maoz.info/apertium-application.pdf. > > > Hi, nice application... I think you are underselling yourself > though. > I've chatted with you a bit on IRC, and I think you have > already > gathered quite a lot of references, possible sources of > information for > both languages. So it might be a good idea to have a section > in your > proposal "Resources" (and include here grammars, dictionaries > etc.) > > If you are able to get access to the morphological analyser > for Hebrew > before the 8th it should be included in your application. If > you are not > able to, then it should be assumed that it is _not_ available, > and the > time plan should be adjusted accordingly. Note that "promised > access to" > is not quite the same as "will be released under the GPL" -- > which would > be our requirement for using it. > > I'm not sure if a morphological analyser for Maltese exists, > but if it > does, then the same goes for that as for the Hebrew one. > > I'm not sure about the "Renaissance of Hebrew and Maltese" > reference. > Perhaps there is a more scholarly reference available ? > > * bellow -> below > > Where are you expecting to find a parallel corpus for Hebrew > and > Maltese ? One person you might try contacting on this question > is Adam > Ussishkin, who I met at SEPLN and is a nice guy. > > I'm missing a bit of a description of the languages, and some > potential > transfer problems. I'm not expecting you to have done all the > work, but > some examples would be nice :) Perhaps you could demonstrate > by > translating the examples from > http://wiki.apertium.eu/index.php/Appendix_A:_Frequency as a > computer > would ? > > ==Week plan== > > * Are you going to be using separate frequency lists for > Hebrew and > Maltese ? If so, then might you not end up with having to > take the > intersection and losing words -- thus not completely > effectively using > your time ? > > * Another idea might be to just use a frequency list from the > Maltese > side ? > > * I think you are optimistic about getting useful handtagged > corpora for > both Maltese and Hebrew -- in order to include them in your > proposal, > you should have them _before_ the 8th April. Otherwise assume > that > they don't exist... remember Zigglebottom. > > * Even if you do get hand tagged corpora, you would need to > convert them > to the tagset of your analyser(s), and also you might need to > fix > tokenisation issues. > > * I think that a week for working on the bilingual dictionary > is too > little. When working from a language that you don't know into > one > that you do know, you need to be particularly careful. For > Macedonian--English, it took me approx 8 days. And I have > quite a lot > of experience. > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.nlp.apertium/285 > > The thanks in Maltese/Hebrew is a really nice touch :) > > Fran > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > _______________________________________________ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > > > > -- > Your friend in time, > Sagie Maoz > [email protected] // +1 (347) 556.5044 // +972 (52) 834-3339 > http://sagie.maoz.info/ http://n0nick.net/ > > /* simba says roar! */ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > _______________________________________________ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf _______________________________________________ Apertium-stuff mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
