Missatge de Francis Tyers <fty...@prompsit.com> del dia dv., 8 de maig 2020
a les 18:05:

> El 2020-05-08 15:50, Tino Didriksen escribió:
> > For khannatanmai's GSoC project, secondary tags will be implemented in
> > a backwards compatible manner. That it in itself indisputable. But,
> > there is a question of how the initial batch of secondary tags should
> > look.
> >
> > I feel they should be in the form of <sf:cdefg>, as in a very short
> > textual lower-case prefix, followed by :, followed by whatever value
> > there is. Or even an upper-case prefix, as in <S:cdefg> or <SF:cdefg>.
> >
> > spectie wants symbol prefixes in the form of <%:cdefg>.
> >
>
> [snip]
>
> > From a technical and scientific basis, textual prefixes are just
> > better. And yet, spectie wants symbol prefixes because he likes them.
> > I disagree. Hence, this mail asking for opinions.
> >
> > Do you language developers actually prefer symbol prefixes?
> >
>
> Tino misrepresented me slightly. I never proposed using the pound sign.
>
> My proposal was for:
>
>
> отец<n><sg><gen><@subj><§agent><%:отца><:human><:kin><!:aef31><!:fcd32>
>
> If we have to have these "secondary tags"... which I have yet to be
> completely convinced of,
> I would like to have them be readable and not clutter the stream with
> unnecessary
> verbosity. There are a lot of rule-based formalisms out there that are
> impossible to read,
> having been dreamt up by people who don't actually spend a lot of time
> writing language
> data, and I would like to avoid that happening with Apertium.
>

Well, from a developer's point of view, I'd like very much if I could get
information like "human", "construction", "denonym", "material", "musical
instrument", etc. which I have to use for lexical selection and also
sometimes for transfer. It seems logical to me that this data would be some
day placed in the dictionary or in a kind of secondary dictionary. In fact
the trend is already to add more semantic information to words: for example
in proper names we now often distinguish between first names, surnames,
place names, hidronyms, etc.

Personally, I don't have any preference in the syntax. I'm fine with any
method that is short, easy to type on any keyboard and that identifies a
tag as secondary.

Hèctor



> Again, and again I want to see a translation and a linguistic
> motivation. In an _actual_
> language pair, not in someone's imagination.
>
> We have a lot of modules that have been made but not reached use in a
> released pair,
> so I don't see how this should be different.
>
> Fran
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