Shelby did not doom the industry. the industry doomed itself by not having any 
foresight and doing the bidding of the oil companies and the communist 
controlled labor unions. In Brazil all carsĀ  burn alcohol. A gasoline burning 
car is worthless in Brazil. The Japanese have a water powered car. Go figure. 
The ignorant and cowardly congress just thinks throwing fiat money at 
everything is the answer because the leaders are controlled by the cowardly 
zionists. I mean look at Pelosi. Look at Barney Frank. Her day of reckoning is 
coming. I mean when the people of San Francisco are on their knees who will 
they blame? The taxpayers have just about had enough of this nonsense.
Geoffrey Franklin, of the Finn Family

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Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama has doomed the industry,

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Subject: BIG 3

Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:51:19 -0800

From: jerryjmcgovern [email protected]

To: 



Editor:

As I watched the coverage of the fate of the U.S. auto

industry, one alarming and frustrating fact hits me right

between the eyes. The fate of our nation's economic survival

is in the hands of some congressmen who are completely out

of touch and act without knowledge of an industry that affects

almost every person in our nation. The same lack of knowledge is

shared with many journalists whom are irresponsible when

influencing the opinion of millions of viewers.



Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama has doomed the industry,

calling it a dinosaur. No Mr. Shelby, you are the dinosaur,

with ideas stuck in the '70s, '80s and '90s. You and the

uninformed journalist and senators that hold onto myths that

are not relevant in today's world.



When you say that the Big Three build vehicles nobody wants to

buy, you must have overlooked that GM outsold Toyota by about

1.2 million vehicles in the U.S. and Ford outsold Honda by 850,000

and Nissan by 1.2 million in the U.S. GM was the world's No. 1

automaker beating Toyota by 3,000 units.



When you claim inferior quality comes from the Big Three, did you

realize that Chevy makes the Malibu and Ford makes the Fusion that

were both rated over the Camry and Accord by J.D. Power independent

survey on initial quality? Did you bother to read the Consumer Report

that rated Ford on par with good Japanese automakers. Did you realize

Big Three's gas guzzlers include the 33 mpg Malibu that beats the

Accord? In '09 Ford introduces the Hybrid Fusion whose 39 mpg is

the best mid size, beating the Camry Hybrid. Ford's Focus beats the

Corolla and Chevy's Cobalt beats the Civic.



When you ask how many times are we going to bail them out

you must be referring to 1980. The only Big Three bailout

was Chrysler, who paid back $1 billion, plus interest. GM and

Ford have never received government aid.



When you criticize the Big Three for building so many pickups,

surely you've noticed the attempts Toyota and Nissan have made

spending billions to try to get a piece of that pie. Perhaps it bothers

you that for 31 straight years Ford's F-Series has been the best

selling vehicle. Ford and GM have dominated this market and

when you see the new '09 F-150 you'll agree this won't change soon.



Did you realize that both GM and Ford offer more hybrid models

than Nissan or Honda? Between 2005 and 2007, Ford alone has

invested more than $22 billion in research and development of

technologies such as Eco Boost, flex fuel, clean diesel, hybrids,

plug in hybrids and hydrogen cars.



It's 2008 and the quality of the vehicles coming out of Detroit are

once again the best in the world. Perhaps Sen. Shelby isn't really

that blind. Maybe he realizes the quality shift to American. Maybe

it's the fact that his state of Alabama has given so much to land

factories from Honda, Hyundai and Mercedes Benz that he is

more concerned about their continued growth than he is about the

people of our country. Sen. Shelby's disdain for "government subsidies"

is very hypocritical. In the early '90s he was the driving force behind

a $253 million incentive package to Mercedes. Plus, Alabama agreed

to purchase 2,500 vehicles from Mercedes. While the bridge loan the Big

Three is requesting will be paid back, Alabama's $180,000-plus per job

was pure incentive. Sen. Shelby, not only are you out of touch, you are

a self-serving hypocrite, who is prepared to ruin our nation because of

lack of knowledge and lack of due diligence in making your opinions

and decisions.



After 9/11, the Detroit Three and Harley Davidson gave $40 million-plus

emergency vehicles to the recovery efforts. What was given to the 9/11

relief effort by the Asian and European Auto Manufactures? $0 Nada. Zip!



We live in a world of free trade, world economy and we have not been

able to produce products as cost efficiently. While the governments

of other auto producing nations subsidize their automakers, our

government may be ready to force its demise. While our automakers

have paid union wages, benefits and legacy debt, our Asian competitors

employ cheap labor. We are at an extreme disadvantage in production
cost.

Although many UAW concessions begin in 2010, many lawmakers think

it's not enough.



Some point the blame to corporate management. I would like 

to speak of Ford Motor Co. The company has streamlined by

reducing our workforce by 51,000 since 2005, closing 17

plants and cutting expenses. Product and future product is

excellent and the company is focused on one Ford. This is a

company poised for success. Ford product quality and corporate

management have improved light years since the nightmare

of Jacques Nasser. Thank you Alan Mulally and the best auto

company management team in the business.



The financial collapse caused by the secondary mortgage fiasco

and the greed of Wall Street has led to a $700 billion bailout of

the industry that created the problem. AIG spent nearly $1

million on three company excursions to lavish resorts and

hunting destinations. Paulson is saying no to $250 billion

foreclosure relief and the whole thing is a mess. So when the Big

Three ask for 4 percent of that of the $700 billion, $25 billion to

save the country's largest industry, there is obviously oppositions.

But does it make sense to reward the culprits of the problem with

$700 billion unconditionally, and ignore the victims?



As a Ford dealer, I feel our portion of the $25 billion will never

be touched and is not necessary. Ford currently has $29 billion

of liquidity. However, the effect of a bankruptcy by GM will

hurt the suppliers we all do business with. A Chapter 11

bankruptcy by any manufacture would cost retirees their health

care and retirements. Chances are GM would recover from

Chapter 11 with a better business plan with much less expense.

So who foots the bill if GM or all three go Chapter 11? All that

extra health care, unemployment, loss of tax base and some

forgiven debt goes back to the taxpayer, us. With no chance

of repayment, this would be much worse than a loan with the

intent of repayment. So while it is debatable whether a loan or

Chapter 11 is better for the Big Three, a $25 billion loan is

definitely better for the taxpayers and the economy of our country.



So I'll end where I began on the quality of the products of Detroit.

Before you, Mr. or Ms. Journalist continue to misinform the

American public and turn them against one of the great industries

that helped build this nation, I must ask you one question. Before

you, Mr. or Madam Congressman vote to end health care and

retirement benefits for 1 million retirees, eliminate 2.5 million

of our nation's jobs, lose the technology that will lead us in the

future and create an economic disaster including hundreds of

billions of tax dollars lost, I ask this question not in the rhetorical

sense. Have you driven a Ford lately?



Jim Johnson

Ford Dealer

Pittsburg PA 



MADE IN USA!



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