RE: U.S. Two States Away from Constitutional Convention Rick, what constitution? You mean the one that they trampled to death and no longer defends the border or provides US any protection from govt?
IMHO, a ConCon may be the last legal opportunity to get this nation back on course. What do we have to look forward to, Amnesty, Abortion, Gun Confiscation, socialist medicine, global warming myth, higher taxes, gay marriage, rigged elections, a censored news media, NAU, the Amero and national bankruptcy, not necessarily in that order? How much more money are we going to throw to the unions to make the teachers do a better job or US made autos more competitive? If there's no Article V convention, aka Concon, what other choices do we have that do not include violence? Any? There's 20,000 troops amassing as we write, just in case. Our constitutional rights have been trashed and now they are working on our inalienable rights. THIS IS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD Rich Martin On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM, RJ <[email protected]> wrote: > U.S. Two States Away from Constitutional Convention > > Link to Joint Resolution in Ohio Legislature: > http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/res.cfm?ID=127_HJR_8 > > > > This is the most urgent, most important action alert the American Policy > Center has ever issued! The Ohio state legislature is expected to vote as > early as Dec. 10th, to call for a Constitutional Convention (Con Con). If > Ohio calls for a Con Con only one more state need do so and Congress will > have no choice but to convene a Convention, throwing our U.S. Constitution > and Bill of Rights up for grabs. Ohio's vote today poses a grave threat to > the U.S. Constitution. Please immediately call the Ohio lawmakers listed > below. ACT FAST - time is of the essence! > > I apologize! This malignancy most foul remained undetected by our radar > until a good friend brought it to our attention yesterday. The hour is late, > but WE MUST TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION! > > It does not matter where you live. Ohio's vote today endangers everyone in > every state in the Union, so we must pressure Ohio lawmakers to discard this > disastrous legislative effort. > > Thirty-two (32) other states have already called for a Con Con (allegedly to > add a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution). 34 states are all that > is required, and then Congress MUST convene a Convention. > > The U.S. Constitution places no restriction on the purposes for which the > states can call for a Convention. If Ohio votes to call a Con Con, for > whatever purpose, the United States will be only one state away from total > destruction. And it's a safe bet that those who hate this nation, and all > She stands for, are waiting to pounce upon this opportunity to re-write our > Constitution. We dare slumber no longer; we must take immediate action to > preserve this nation! > > Certainly all loyal Americans want government constrained by a balanced > budget. But calling a Con Con risks a revolutionary change in our form of > government. The ultimate outcome will likely be a new constitution; one that > would possibly eliminate the Article 1 restriction to the coinage of real > money or even eliminate gun or property rights. So what may look like a good > idea to the legislators driving this effort - all Republicans - will > certainly make them prey to the law of unintended consequences - at the very > least insuring the U.S. will never have a balanced budget - while destroying > what vestiges of liberty the government still allows. > > You may have heard that some of those 32 states have voted to rescind their > calls. This is true. However, under Article V of the Constitution, Congress > must call a Constitutional Convention whenever 2/3 (or 34) of the states > apply. The Constitution makes no provision for rescission. We've been told > advocates of the convention are waiting to capture just two more states - > Ohio, and one other. They can then challenge the other states' rescissions > in the courts while going ahead with the Convention. Congress alone then > decides whether state legislatures or state conventions ratify proposed > amendments. > > You may have heard the states can control the subject of any convention. In > truth no restrictive language from any state can legally limit the scope or > outcome of a Convention! > > Once a Convention is called Congress determines how the delegates to the > Convention are chosen. Once chosen, those Convention delegates possess more > power than the U.S. Congress itself; if it were not so they would not be > able to change the U.S. Constitution! > > We have not had a Constitutional Convention since 1787. That Convention was > called to make small changes in the Articles of Confederation. As a point of > fact, several states first passed resolutions requiring their delegates > discuss amendments to the Articles ONLY, forbidding even discussion of > foundational changes. However, following the delegates' first agreement that > their meetings be in secret, their second act was to agree to debate those > state restrictions and to declare the Articles of Confederation NULL AND > VOID! They also changed the ratification process, reducing the required > states' approval from 100% to 75%. There is no reason to believe a > contemporary Con Con wouldn't further "modify" Article V restrictions to > suit its purpose. > > As former Chief Justice Warren Burger said in a letter written to Phyllis > Schlafly, President of Eagle Forum: > "...there is no effective way to limit or muzzle the actions of a > Constitutional Convention. The convention could make its own rules and set > its own agenda. Congress might try to limit the convention to one amendment > or to one issue, but there is no way to assure that the convention would > obey. After a convention is convened, it will be too late to stop the > convention if we don't like its agenda. The meeting in 1787 ignored the > limit placed by the confederation Congress..." (emphasis mine) > > We were blessed in 1787; the Con Con delegates were the leaders of a freedom > movement that had just cleansed this land of tyranny. > > Today's corrupt politicians and judges would like nothing better than the > ability to legally ignore the Constitution - to modify its "problematic" > provisions to reflect the philosophical and socials mores of our > contemporary society. > > The majority of U.S. voters just elected a dedicated leftist as President. > Republicans are at their weakest right now! This is a horrible time to try > such a crazy scheme. We cannot control the debate right now! Don't for one > second doubt that delegates to a Con Con wouldn't revise the 1st Amendment > into a government-controlled privilege, replace the 2nd Amendment with a > "collective" right to self-defense, and abolish the 4th, 5th, and 10th > Amendments, and the rest of the Bill of Rights. Additions could include the > non-existent Separation of Church and State, the "right" to abortion and > euthanasia, and much, much more. > > Our uniquely and purely American concept of individual rights, endowed by > our Creator, would be quickly set aside as an anachronistic relic of a > bygone era; replaced by new "collective" rights, awarded and enforced by > government for the "common good". > > The problems our nation faces are not a result of deficiencies in our > Constitution; rather, they are the direct result of our disregard for that > divinely-inspired document of liberty. > > There is no challenge faced by this nation that cannot be solved either by > enforcing existing law, or in limited cases, by writing new law. We do not > need, AND MUST NOT RISK THE LIBERTY OF THE UNITED STATES with, a > Constitutional Convention! > > Ohio must not vote for a Con Con! We cannot control the debate! And state > #34 is likely sitting silently in the wings, ready to act with lightning > speed, sealing the fate of our once great nation before we can prevent it. > > Stop the Ohio bill and we can stop the Constitutional Convention. > > ACTION TO TAKE > > We need only stop the House bill, HJR8, sponsored by Representative Louis > Blessing, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee (there is a Senate bill > too). > > 1. Call Chairman Blessing's office and tell his staff you oppose a > Constitutional Convention and you want this process stopped. > > Tell them this is the most dangerous time ever to call for such a > convention. > > Tell them no one can control the debate or outcome of a Con Con. > > Representative Louis Blessing > Phone: (614) 466-9091 > Fax: (614) 719-3583 > Email: [email protected] > > 2. Call Representative Bill Batchelder. He is a very good man. I've known > him for years. But he has been misled on this issue. The word is he is > wavering. Your calls can convince him to withdraw his support. That can kill > this bill. > > Representative Bill Batchelder > Phone: (614) 466-8140 > Fax: (614) 719-3969 > Email: [email protected] > > 3. It is URGENT that you make your calls right now. The bill could be voted > on as early as this afternoon (Wednesday). > > I'm so sorry for this late notice. We just found out about this last night. > > Please get this message out far and wide. This task requires our very best > effort! E-mail and call your friends, family and neighbors. Network anywhere > and everywhere possible. If you know someone who never takes action, > encourage them to break that habit this one time. Our Constitution is under > assault! > > Visit the American Policy Center website > > SEND THIS MESSAGE TO AT LEAST TEN MORE PEOPLE! APC is now offering you a > quick and easy way to multiply your efforts and help win more battles! > Simply click here to send this APC Action Alert to up to TEN of your > friends! It's fast, it's easy and most of all, it's extremely effective in > KILLING OPPRESSIVE POLICIES! > > -- > ___________________________________ > Rick Johnson > http://oldsarges.blogspot.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/rebelfire77 > [email protected] > http://www.kutsalkitap.com/?p=0&l=1 > http://www.truthformuslims.com/listen.htm > http://www.sc-20062.com > > > > Founder Samuel Adams noted, > "It does not take a majority to prevail ... > but rather an irate, tireless minority, > keen on setting brushfires of freedom > in the minds of men." We know you > are one of the "tireless minority" > of conservative activists, and we > thank you for your vigilance. > > Somewhere in Kenya > a village is missing their idiot. > > > > -- This is the incredibly uncreditable election. Rich Martin I'M MAD, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANY MORE. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With ACORN, La Raza, and Ohio Dem officials sitting on 20,000 suspect voter registrations and other Dept heads releasing Joe the Plumber's confidential information, this has been an incredibly, uncreditable election. Hope you didn't waste your time and gas to stand in line at one of their polling places hoping the electoral system isn't a fraud. Rich Martin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "APFN" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/APFN?hl=en APFN-1 YahooGroups: Subscribe: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apfn-1/join Unsubscribe: [email protected] APFN MSG BOARD: `In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.' http://disc.server.com/Indices/234999.html APFN CONTENTS PAGE: http://www.apfn.org/old/apfncont.htm "RADIO YOUR WAY" APFN POGO NETWORK (( WOW!! )) "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent" -- Thomas Jefferson http://www.apfn.net/POGO.HTM Find elected officials, including the president, members of Congress, governors, state legislators, local officials, and more. http://congress.org/congressorg/dbq/officials/ APFN, PMB 207, 6640 W. CACTUS RD. #A111, GLENDALE, AZ 85304 -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
