This may be the most anti-PC message you will ever read


Most citizens have come to accept, some reluctantly, the B Hussein Obama is
the most poweful man in the world. I don't normally pay much attention to
religeous wars. I think most of US think of them as being internal within
their ranks. History does not support this the assumption.



Below is a serious Hindu conversation on the subject with viewpoints that
are hard to accept emotionally, but should not logically be ignored.



Rich Martin

Editor, Slick eZine






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ATC] Re: [prohindu] Fwd: It cannot happen in America ?



From: "DIKSHIT NIMESH" [email protected]



Hindus should attend this rally, but it has no meaning - since its going to
be attended
by handful of muslim moderates too... I don;t understand why these groups
continuously
keep on forgetting that the world does not only face a war waged by Islamic
radicals but
also by these moderates.

There are two kinds of war and one complements the other. One is known as
Holy War or Jihad - wherein muslim are called radicals or millitants.
Against whom the world has to unite - Then the second type is called Holy
Deception - its a kind of war in which delaying techniques are employed
giving a mirage of Hope; that Muslims can be changed and made to realise
their mistakes. These group's only agenda is to counter any attack on Islam
in partticular and Muslims in General. Until the fanatics take over the
control - once that happens the same moderates join them to share the power.
And say Inshallah !

A real moderate would try to find a problem within his own self, in this
case his own religion. It does not take a genious to understand that
everywhere muslim is a common denometer to any kind of religious problems.
Why not they condemns those verses in Koran? Why they show reluctance in
leaving Islam ? America is a free country and here no one is going to come
kill you for changing hte religion - On the contrarary the handful of
muslims may be in single digit has managed to shut up a rally of 3000+
strong Jewish, Xians, Hindus and people of other religion to speak a word
against Islam or Koran. This is a specific conditon before they can join
this rally !!!

How can this succeed - the buzz is this will create a world wide impact -
but that impact will be diluted when Muslims will be there defending Islam -
This will tell the world that there are Moderate Muslims - who too are
against this Radical Islam - which is contrarary to the fact. I refuse to
believe that any muslims in US did not enjoy the 9/11 in the bedreoom with
his/her spouse. This is a fact.

Don't fall in this trap - There can not be a radical muslim in the absense
of Radical Islam, And Radical Islam is not a misunderstanding of Quran but
part of it. So talking about radical islam w/o talking about its source is
humbug, a sure to die movement. There is no
question of going few steps together and then take it over  - it will be too
late by then -
Muslims know this - we do not. No magic wand is going to save you if you
move to induct them in your side as a moderate islam or muslim. Its a
misnomer - either you are muslim or you are not. Too call someone fanatic
and someone moderate is direct insult of Quran - which is an eternal and
last word of God.

So shun this appeasement and declare openly that its islam and quran that
are responsible for this problem. A muslim would not burn affigies unless he
has a dictate
to do this in Koran.

Regards
Nimesh

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Subject: [prohindu] Fwd: It cannot happen in America ?
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Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 6:42 AM

Mananiya Bandhu Shri Narain Katariaji,

Namaskar

I hope you would like my suggestion i sent to Devendraji and others
  to combat the Muslim Demographic Jehad.

Regards

HK
Mananiya Bandhu Shri Devendraji,

Namaskar

what is the agenda of Hindus to counter act this situation. This documentry
shows the statastics and concerns in Europe.

 I WONDER WHAT CHANCE HINDUS AND INDIA HAVE TO
SERVIVE AGAINST THIS DEMOGRAPHIC WAR OF ISLAM ? DO WE HAVE ANY AGENDA AND
INDSTRUMENT  TO PROPOGATE AND ADDRESS   THIS DANGER OF
 ISLAMIC BREEDING PROGRAMME TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD AND TRANSFORM IT
INTO DARUL ISLAM ?

Nowadays, the population of Hindus in India is going down to three folds as
new generation young Hindu couple have one or two children the most. There
is a
great need of producing similar research documentry on Indian situation
with facts and figures to make Hindus realise the danger they facing and the

self destruction they are inviting by BY controllling and reducing fertility

rate for mere excuse of  better life, better education  and
better prospect for one child or two children, the fooling slogan of
Indian Government applied only to Hindus to promote more muslim population
who enjoys the slogan " HUM PAANCH HAMARE PACHPAN".

THIS IS A SERIOUS MATTER THAN ANY OTHER ISSUES AND HINDU ORGANISATION
MUST STEP UP THEIR CAMPAIGN BY RELEASING EDUCATIONAL DOCUMENTRY OF AWAKENING

CALL ON THIS SUBLECT TO BRING AWARENESS AMONG HINDU SOCIETY.  THE
CALL OF ACTION ON THIS ISSUE BY HINDUS IS NEED OF THE TIME AND WE HAVE TO
ACT FAST.

IS THERE ANY HINDU INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANISATIONS READY TO FINANCE
SUCH PROJECT ? IS THERE ANY BRAVE HINDU FILM PRODUCER/DIRECTOR/ CAMERAMAN
 THERE TO TAKE UP THIS TASK?

HK


From: BILROJ
To: BILROJ
BCC: HinduKrantivir
Sent: 28/04/2009 01:17:25
GMT Daylight Time
Subj: It cannot happen in America ?


"Religion of Peace"  in
Action

A good friend of mine hosts a local TV show here in Eugene ,
Oregon,
called  " Islam Today."   His program is mostly straight
news, simply
describing the usual kinds of things various  Muslims do around
the world--
beheading a daughter for dating the wrong man, demanding the
deaths of Jews, seeking to have Shariah law for a Muslim
community
in a town in Michigan or somewhere, and so forth.

Barry Sommers, his name, doesn't editorialize except incidentally,
and mostly along the lines of  "isn't that ridiculous," or "can you
believe it ? "
That is as far as he ever goes, which I know for a fact since I have
been
a repeated guest on his show and otherwise watch it regularly. At no
time
has he made any threats against Muslims, at no time has he "ranted" on
the
subject or used intemperate language.

This is necessary to know in order to best evaluate a voice mail he
received
a little over 2 weeks ago. The caller had an obvious Arabic accent and
said,
words to this exact effect,  "you must stop your program and if you
do not
we will make sure there are serious consequences for you."

Barry did two things immediately. First, he called the local police
department and
two uniformed officers came to his home and listened to the voice mail.
They said
that the threat was too non-specific for them to do anything and only if
there
was further harassment could they intervene.

Secondly, Barry contacted a personal friend on the police department
and
he also came over, later,  and listened. He  was sufficiently
alarmed to do some
investigating on his own. It took most of two weeks but the caller was
located.
Surprise, surprise, he is a foreign student who is a member of the
Muslim
students association at the University of Oregon.

Again, since the threat was non-specific, little could be done, but the
Muslim student
knows he is on the police watch list and also knows that hard evidence
exists
to connect him to any possible attack on Mr Sommers.

I am scheduled to appear as a guest on Islam Today in early May. It is my
intention
to challenge the local Muslim community to admit just how anti-American
the
values of Shariah law happen to be. How anti-American many of the
values
in the Qur'an happen to be. And I intend to  let any Muslims
watching the show
know that I am personally supportive of Barry's views at close to the 100
% level.

I have already broadcast a one hour program that was highly critical
of Islam
on my own TV show, " City College TV Classroom."
You have my word, there will be many more.

Islam is a criminal religion and any Muslims who take the Qur'an
seriously
and intend to act upon their beliefs are criminals.

Signed
Billy Rojas




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