On 11/20/12 8:47 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> On 11/17/12 12:42 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>>> I have been reviewing some documentation regarding the development of
>>>>>> OpenOffice extensions[1] and I see there are many thing missing.
>>>>> It could be, even though I remember that those pages were enough for
>>>>> me to
>>>>> build the Italian dictionary extension (but it's a non-code extension).
>>>> I am not sure what to make of your comment since it has nothing much
>>>> to do
>>>> with the issues I listed. Is there an counter proposal? or you think
>>>> there
>>>> is no need to update it?
>>>
>>> No, I was merely saying that some of the content there is still
>>> serviceable. But if that section as a whole can be improved, and someone
>>> wants to try, I'm surely in favor of seeing it improved!
>>>
>>
>> well it can be always improved and it would be nice to have it better
>> organized.
>>
>> Let me explain some background how it was intended
>>
>> The DevGuide [1] was a huge documentation project sponsored by Sun to
>> create a useful developer documentation. The idea was realyl to create
>> the core docu that can be used by experienced developers as well as
>> authors of more specialized docu. See for example Andrew Pitonyak's
>> Basic Guide, he used the DevGuide a lot as far as I know.
>>
> 
> I see.
> 
> 
>>
>> The SDK was the extension to the DevGuide and provides the related
>> examples and API reference documentation (version dependent). The close
>> relation between DevGuide and API reference makes this clear.
>>
>> The code-snippet base was one approach to collect more and more useful
>> snippets that can be easy used and adapted for personal needs. An idea
>> to involve more volunteers. My idea was always to make use of useful
>> Basic snippet in the Basic IDE directly (but this was more a dream ;-))
>>
> 
> I think the best (most uptdated) snippets are the one being worked out on
> the forum.
> 
> 
>>
>> We can provide the same in the wiki where I have tried to organize the
>> API section in some better structured way (hierarchical) and always used
>> the at least the category API [2]. Using categories is key here because
>> you get a lot of nice features for free. See for example the samples [3]
>> and the tutorials [4] section which are both divided in language
>> sections and aggregate related pages. Check the Cpp tutorials [5] and
>> you will see what I mean.
>>
>> You can add the correct categories to existing pagers and can make them
>> easy navigatable via the API pages or in the same way via the extension
>> page where I had the same idea in mind but never really found the time
>> to do it.
>>
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide
>> [2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/API
>> [3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/API/Samples
>> [4] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/API/Tutorials
>> [5] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/API/Tutorials/Cpp
>>
> 
> Would be nice to use a wiki template to 'map' the key documentation. An
> example is what is done with the modules like Writer, Calc, Base, Graphics,
> etc. Not only can show hierarchy but also sequence.
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer

When we align the design in all places these templates are indeed of
help to simplify the navigation. The firs thing would be to adapt the
color background on the top of the templates to fit in the overall theme ;-)

> 
> 
>>
>> We don't have to move around a lot of pages and can start by using the
>> correct categories and use aggregated pages to make related pages better
>> usable.
>>
>> The API reference docu is created during the build and I update it after
>> a new release. But here is still work to do to update the links in and
>> from the DevGuide etc. I worked on a wiki bot to analyze for example the
>> DevGuide section automatically but never finished this work. Before we
>> moved the DevGuide in the wiki I did the same with perl scripts on the
>> raw DevGuide sources.
>>
> 
> Where are these perl scripts/DevGuide sources?

The DevGuide is in the wiki today, these sources and scripts are not
longer relevant and not available.

Juergen

> 
> 
>>
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>>>>   A service called codesnippets[4] is also no longer there ...
>>>>>> [4] http://codesnippets.services.openoffice.org/index.xml
>>>>> I can't answer the other questions. But Codesnippets is still online:
>> as
>>>>> far as I can tell, the above link still works.
>>>> Is there but clearly unmantained, the CSS is broken and the latest
>>>> entry is
>>>> pretty old.
>>>
>>> I think the maintainer stated explicitly on ooo-dev that he would keep
>>> it online. Maybe you can find more in the ooo-dev archives. Anyway, it
>>> is not a resource under the project's control and I don't know if there
>>> are plans to update it further (you are right in saying that there is no
>>> recent content).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>   Andrea.
>>
>>
> 
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