Hi Aftab,

Since Andy have already sent a statement expressing my concern very well,
let me refer a couple of lines from his statement as answers for your
questions.
(Thank you > Andy)

On 14/03/15 20:00, "Andy Linton" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Our community's decision making process is supposed to be bottom up and
> consensus driven. This model looks much more like top down and "we'll decide
> what's best and let you know".

This is a gap which I'm pointing out.

> 
> And other critical tasks that APNIC should be driving like IPv6 adoption
> languish. Perhaps the many hundreds of thousands of dollars APNIC spends on IG
> should be focussed on engaging with major industries at the CEO level
> explaining the business risks of not having a future proof addressing
> strategy. We may do that - I'd like to see the reports.

It is another example which APNIC needs to tackle as daily task.

And, can I ask your additional thought about your comment?

On 14/03/14 23:14, "Aftab Siddiqui" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Masato,
> Glad to see that you have started this thread to engage more people to have
> their opinion heard.
> 
>> 1. In current approach, it is NOT clear that Internet Governance has
>> relevance to our daily businesses and operations in the Internet.
>>      As a result, current approach is making a gap inside APRICOT and/or
>> APNIC community though its intension is involving more
>>      participants to Internet Governance activity.
> 
> I partially agree with your above comment regarding the relevance of IG with
> daily businesses and operations. With my little experience I do understand
> your view point because the country you are based in Internet is governed
> through certain rules rules, norms and standards developed through
> consultation and well drafted framework. But in our part of the region, the
> picture is quite different, I hope you understand that difference. We are
> going through consultation phase to define those rules and standards to govern
> the internet. 

I basically agree that the situation is different in each country.
However, do you think current APNIC's IG activity  is reflecting your
situation enough?

Rgs,
Masato Yamanishi



On 14/03/14 23:14, "Aftab Siddiqui" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Masato,
> Glad to see that you have started this thread to engage more people to have
> their opinion heard.
> 
>> 1. In current approach, it is NOT clear that Internet Governance has
>> relevance to our daily businesses and operations in the Internet.
>>      As a result, current approach is making a gap inside APRICOT and/or
>> APNIC community though its intension is involving more
>>      participants to Internet Governance activity.
> 
> I partially agree with your above comment regarding the relevance of IG with
> daily businesses and operations. With my little experience I do understand
> your view point because the country you are based in Internet is governed
> through certain rules rules, norms and standards developed through
> consultation and well drafted framework. But in our part of the region, the
> picture is quite different, I hope you understand that difference. We are
> going through consultation phase to define those rules and standards to govern
> the internet. I'm not sure how to define the gap in community because of IG
> activities. Please help me and others to understand that how it is creating a
> gap.
>  
>> 
>> 2. While there is a question for its efficiency, APNIC is spending too much
>> budget and human resources for Internet Governance
>>      activity and it is causing negative impact for APNIC daily operations as
>> RIR.
> 
>  Yes, I'm also interested to know that how much budget and human resources
> have been spent on IG related activities and its outcome. Not in terms of $
> but in terms of value. I beg to disagree that it is causing any negative
> impact on APNIC's daily operation as RIR. I'm a very constant troublemaker for
> APNIC helpdesk and Secretariat and I've never witnessed any delay or
> inappropriate response from APNIC staff. So I'm not sure what made you say
> that. Would you like to share any incident or issue which was not properly
> addressed?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Aftab A. Siddiqui


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