Apologies for my tardy treply. In message <[email protected]>, Vivek Nigam <[email protected]> wrote:
>Delegations made by APNIC are protected by the APNIC maintainer APNIC-HM, >while delegations made by NIRs are protected by NIR maintainers like >MAINT-VN-VNNIC, MAINT-JPNIC etc. >The netnames you mentioned are associated with delegations made by the >NIRs. OK, but could -somebody- please nudge, cajole, browbeat, or do whatever it takes to get the NIRs to stop handing out allocations without also creating organisation records for the parties to whom they are giving the number resources? It would also be maximally helpful if the NIRs would go back now and create proper organisation: records, as may be needed, for any of what I have come to call the "top level" direct allocation holders. Honestly, trying to parse WHOIS records obtained from all five of the Rregional Internet Registries in order to do Useful Things[tm] is already hard enough without having to deal with a whole additional layer of obfsucation & complexity that is introduced by these various APNIC region NIRs and their inability or unwllingness to conform to perfectly reasonable and already commonly used standards regarding WHOIS data base entries. I understand that history is working against progress here, but this problem... of what I and my code see as the numerous "malformed" APNIC WHOIS data base entries... all or mostly traces back to one or another of these NIRs. And this is a unique problem that *only* arises with respect to APNIC. In general, and with very fee exceptions, none of the other global RIRs make it even nearly so difficult to just simply find out the name and country of an entity that is the registrant of a number resource. Given that unfortunate fact, I hope that I will be forgiven for expressing my feelings about this quite explicitly... History and nationalities be damned! This is ONE global Internet, and the need to be able to easily identify the name and country of any given registrant of any given number resource, no matter where it is on the planet, should not be in any sense controversial, nor should this goal be twarted by any excessive deference to a handful of recalcitrant and unhelpful national authorities. (As we say here, they should all "get with the program".) >Apart from working with the NIRs... Working with the NIRs is Good. My hope is simply that part of this "work" will be to simply tell them that there need to be some standards with respect to the representation of things within the APNIC data base, and that they need to either lead, follow, or get out of the way. I look forward to the day when my software tools will no longer need to be corrupted by an ever growing number of hacks and work-arounds, all put in place just to compensate for the frequent failure to adhere to even minimal reasonable standards within the APNIC WHOIS data base. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but these are the facts. Every other regional WHOIS data base makes it trivially easy to find the identity of a resource holder. APNIC, not so much. Regards, rfg _______________________________________________ apnic-talk mailing list [email protected] https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/apnic-talk
