Hubert,

I disagree. The draft proposed section 35B(a) very clearly defines what a 
relationship is for the purposes of proposal 5. This proposal I believe isn't 
designed to restrict organisations who do business from being able to submit a 
candidate (i.e. if Company A buys a transit service from ISP B it's not 
designed to restrict Company A and ISB B from each submitting a candidate from 
the EC, conditional that both businesses are not in the same economy, see 
proposal 2). Rather it is designed to restrict both Company A and Company B 
from submitting a candidate where they are both owned, managed, have mutual 
beneficial owners, and the like by Company C.

I also refer to your statement that "Ombudsman or Electoral Committee needs to 
also be vested with the power as an appeal institution". Under 35C(c) it reads 
"All nominees for the Executive Council must agree as a condition of their 
nomination to ... submit to the decisions of the Electoral Committee, which 
will be final and binding". Could you please clarify some reasons where an 
appeal would be justifiable?

Regards,
Christopher H.

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From: Hubert <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 1:01 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [apnic-talk] Re: Proposed By-law Reform Vote

Dear Mr. Hawker,

I cannot help but to notice the drafting of Proposal 4 left much to be desired 
as it fails to establish and does not further define the relationship or extent 
of proximity or the dynamic of relationship between organisations.

It would seem to the community that an imposition of outright ban of that 
blanket nature actually encompasses all the organisations with its affiliated 
entities, whether they had previously transacted with each other in any 
business dealings before or had been formally endorsed by one another 
elsewhere. By adopting this proposal, it might open the floodgates for 
potential abuse and interested party could eliminate opposition by "screening 
out unwanted candidates" by precluding them from contesting in the seats of 
Executive Council, so to speak.

I am all for the implementation of Proposal 5 but it shall be noted that such 
an office of Ombudsman or Electoral Committee needs to also be vested with the 
power as an appeal institution, where it could be the final and legally binding 
arbiter to determine any appeals arising from the election processes in a 
timely manner without the need of external intervention and such an independent 
committee shall also be tasked with the important duty in holding the electoral 
roll and attend to the general affairs of election.

All in all, by having such a committee with recognisable standing of 
independence, integrity and honesty will greatly enhance the legitimacy and 
impartiality of the election as there exists an in-house recourse for 
contestants to air out grievances in proper channel.

Regards,

Hubert
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