On 07/06/06, Marco Gusy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is right, but you're talking ignoring the actual situation is even worse.
I have never said the current situation is good. :) > This is the actual situation: some applications show progress in the task bar > (1%.. 2% ...) konqueror opens also a new floating/distracting window dialog, > some applications have a "comics style" box exiting from the system tray > (kopete), some applications have a behaviour similar to the mockup (kmail > mail retrieving popups), some apps have the system tray... very few show > these informations in the main windows, despite the Gestalt principle. I agree. Progress bars to a standard location in the main window (Amarok does it pretty well, in my opinion). No progress in the system tray, and let's turn knotify into something similar to Growl [1] where all applications can send their notifications. > Not to mention the taskbar... it uses the same phylosophy mixing applications > in the same area, exactly like Chi Shang Cheng said about the mockup. I do not have any taskbar in my desktop. For me has no use. It takes space in my desktop, and is an unsorted list of windows with short information about which applications are there. When I tried to find some window in my taskbar I usually had to press all the buttons to notice it, because that was usually faster than searching in the bunch of buttons. Don't know why we keep on using such an nondescriptive tool, when in Linux we have that pretty window list - with the hole title of the window. I have an applet which shows me the window list, so I do not even need to middle-click on my desktop. Even better would be a previsualisation [2] of the windows in your desktop, but well... I just find the taskbar evil. Good thing Windows95 introduced. > So the progress already are scattered in the desktop, or even worse virtual > desktops... why not to try to help people find them? Well, they would be reachable if they were in a standard place in my window. Do not drop them in a desktop applet which will sometimes be hidden. What if my window is maximized? The applet pops up? Not to say that you cannot control all applications. What if a streaming flash is loading. Should I see then a progress bar there? Anyways. Maybe this progress bar thingy is not incompatible with what I said. It is possible to have progress bars in your main window, and also a gadget which detects KProgressBars (or whatever) and shows them in a list. But always as a support. It just does not make sense for me to split functionalities of your application and sending them to the background. [1] http://growl.info/ [2] http://www.novell.com/video/media_player.html?id=xgl/desktoporg.flv -- Francisco Joaquín Rodríguez Prados Fachbereich Informatik, Fachhochschule Darmstadt, Darmstadt, Germany Phone: (+49) 176 24 255 490 Phone: (+34) 615 975 631 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ Appeal mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/appeal
