You can purchase lengths of wire from Finger Lakes Trellis Supply. They will supply galv or black, in any weight. If you use black 16 or 18 ga, they should rust away and not need to be retrieved.
They are not in their catalog, so you'll need to email them for a price.

Mo Tougas

On Mar 11, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Harold Schooley wrote:

What is the length of these rubber bands and where available?

Harold
From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple- c...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:20 PM
To: Apple-Crop
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Early bearing

We have found that branch bending has worked the best for us on B9 and M9 as well as M26. We use the rubber bands now and find that they require the least amount of time of any other technique. We use the bio-degradable in May and they are gone by August or just after terminals have set. With the wires, you have to go back and retrieve them later which does take some time. With either vertical axe or tall spindle, pruning is at a minimum, so more time is saved on pruning. In my opinion, this is the most cost effective method of all. We are now in the process of going back to our vertical axe trees planted 8 x 14 and are converting them to tall spindle as we interplant new trees between 4-5 year olds and doubling density to 4 x 14. If anyone is interested in more detail feel free to contact me.

Dennis Norton
Royal Oak Farm Orchard
Office (815) 648-4467
Mobile (815) 228-2174
Fax (609) 228-2174
http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com
http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com
http://www.revivalhymn.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Maurice Tougas
To: Apple-Crop
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Early bearing

I've found all the techniques mentioned work to some degree. I suspect that the more of them employed, the more likely you will succeed. One mentioned only briefly was the bending of branches below horizontal. It can be.... is very time consuming, and very effective. People of course have been using spreaders, weights, kite string, pea string, rubber bands,...... but what we've been using for a few years now are 18-24 inch pieces of soft 14 or 16 ga wire. Either bend a small loop at each end in the shop, or carry them straight in bundles and make quick loops in orchard. Quick and easy, and can be repositioned later. If 18" is too short, loop two together.

Mo Tougas
Tougas Family Farm
Northborough, MA

On Mar 10, 2009, at 6:58 PM, jscr...@aol.com wrote:


My experience is that in Virginia Spys are late producers. Scoring really works. There are more and less severe scoring, you might want to try several types on some limbs. The least severe is one cut around the trunk under the scaffold limps. The most severe would be to remove about 1/8 inch section. Some remove a larger section and replace it upside down. It is most important to cover any such wound to keep it from drying and from fire blight. I have used several layers of masking tape. It will come off by itself later. One or two weeks after bloom is when I have made the scoring.
Good luck, you can really get their attention with scoring.
John Crumlpacker
Timberville, Virginia
540 896 6000
In a message dated 3/10/2009 4:00:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, schoo...@kwic.com writes: Would someone care to divulge a recipe for getting slow-to-bear varieties into production sooner. I have Northern Spy in mind using Ethrel or NAA or combinations. Apogee perhaps. Other techniques?
Harold Schooley
Orchards Limited
Simcoe, Ontario
Canada

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