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________________________________ From: Jon Clements <jmcext...@gmail.com> To: Apple-Crop <apple-crop@virtualorchard.net> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 8:39:44 AM Subject: Re: Apple-Crop: Re: a question about bud terminology That sounds good Dave -- from my forestry background, the bundle of needles in a pine tree is often used to help identify (among other things) the species as this bundle or fascicle has different numbers of needle depending on the species. For example, white pine (Pinus strobus) has 5 needles per fascicle. Funny, however, I never thought of a cherry flower bud in this terminology. Also, from Wikipedia (FWIW): Fascicle: In botany, A cluster of flowers or leaves, such as the bundles of the thin leaves (or needles) of pines. Jon On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:56 PM, David Kollas <kol...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > I immediately think of Quentin Bliss Zielinski when I see questions > concerning the classification of > fruit crops. I still have his book, "Modern Systematic Pomology" published > in 1955, that I used in his > Oregon State University 'Systematic Pomology' course. In it, he lists the > sweet and sour cherries of commerce > as having a fascicled fruiting habit. In the margin of the page in which he > gives this description (p. 132) I had > written that fascicled is a subdivision of cymose. > > David Kollas > Kollas Orchard > Tolland, CT > > On Jan 17, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Harold J. Larsen wrote: > >> The discussion about TRV has been most interesting, but I have another >> question about bud terminology. >> >> Within the Rose family, we have crops that have differing types of >> flower-containing buds: >> - a single flower, no shoots -- Apricot, peach, and nectarine (plus some >> individual buds on plum) >> - multiple flowers, no shoots -- sweet & tart cherry (+ other cherries), >> plums (most buds) >> - multiple flowers + shoot initial -- apples & pears >> >> The first category, I believe, is termed a "simple bud". >> The third category, I believe, is a type of compound bud termed a "mixed >> bud" >> >> But what is the plant anatomical / horticultural term for the second >> category? I had viewed it as a compound bud because of the multiple flower >> initials, but the typical example used for a compound bud is grape >> (Vitaceae) which has a primary, secondary, and tertiary bud all enclosed >> within the bud scales at each node. I have NOT been able to find any source >> of reference with a term for the cherry and plum type of complex bud. >> >> Any ideas / references out there??? I have been putting together an >> Extension document on evaluating cold injury damage to fruit buds and the >> evaluation process differs between the bud types. So use of some terms >> would be helpful in shortening it. The intent is to have it both in printed >> form and as a PDF document on the web. So I'd really like to have the >> terminology to be correct! >> >> Thanks much! >> >> Harold L. >> >> -- >> Dr. Harold Larsen, Interim Manager - WCRC >> Res. Pathologist & Ext. Fruit Dis. Specialist >> Colo. St. Univ., WCRC - Orchard Mesa >> 3168 B 1/2 Road >> Grand Junction, CO 81503-9621 >> Ph: (970) 434-3264, x-205 >> FAX: (970) 434-1035 >> EMail: harold.lar...@colostate.edu >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard >> <http://www.virtualorchard.net> and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements >> <webmas...@virtualorchard.net>. >> >> Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent >> "official" opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the >> content. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual > Orchard<http://www.virtualorchard.net> and managed by Win Cowgill and > JonClements <webmas...@virtualorchard.net>. > > Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not > represent"official" opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility > forthe content. > > > > > > -- JMCEXTMAN Jon Clements cleme...@umext.umass.edu aka 'Mr Liberty' aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' IM mrhoneycrisp 413.478.7219 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 'Apple-Crop' LISTSERV is sponsored by the Virtual Orchard <http://www.virtualorchard.net> and managed by Win Cowgill and Jon Clements <webmas...@virtualorchard.net>. Apple-Crop is not moderated. Therefore, the statements do not represent "official" opinions and the Virtual Orchard takes no responsibility for the content.
