I'll be very interested to hear how breeding research progresses, Lee. We're painfully in need of a good HC substitute here in Middle TN. I'd be very interested to pay you for some scion wood once you release your new varieties for testing.
Randy Steffens Jr Shepherd's Valley Orchards Middle Tennessee On Feb 27, 2011, at 8:42 AM, lee elliott wrote: > Thanks Randy,my original plan was to grow a seedling tree,take a scion and > limb graft it.some of these limb grafts had outstanding apples but the > seedling's apple's (in every case but one) looked the same but lacking in > soluable solids,smaller, poor or off taste. My new seedling trees in the > nursery will be disgarded and 2 scions from each will be limb grafted,I'm > wasting my time growing these seedling to test,will test on limb grafts on > B-9 trees, my goal here is a Honey Crisp like apple that will grow well > further south, I've tried to grow HC since 1994 and failed most years,Honey > Crisp is a disaster to grow here in Western Illinois, too hot, too humid,poor > color,very high cull rate,not proffitable,too many on the ground.So far I > have a number of good crosses I'm testing on my customers,Excellent > response,Some day may offer these through my own nursery.Not ready yet,Big > nurserys and universitys won't offer their new varietys to us little guys, I > hope to change that.Lee Elliott.Upstart Nursery,Winchester,IL. Due to patent > laws,nothing is for sale at this time. > > --- On Sat, 2/26/11, Randy Steffens Jr <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Randy Steffens Jr <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [apple-crop] [Apple-crop] Apples from seedling trees > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 7:12 PM > > Good evening Lee, > > Regarding your January question about seedling apple trees: several studies > have shown a significant correlation between rootstock variety and fruit > taste/quality. See the links below. It does seem surprising however that > the difference in quality would be as marked as you describe. Perhaps there > are additional factors play here. > > Randy Steffens Jr > Shepard's Vally Orchards > Middle Tennessee > > http://irrec.ifas.ufl.edu/flcitrus/UF%20IFAS%20Short%20Course%20Proceedings/factors/rootstock.pdf > http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/0304423885900184 > http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/0304423894007452 > http://treephys.oxfordjournals.org/content/26/1/93.full.pdf > > >Not sure whats going on here,anybody experienced growing seedling trees? I > >started crossing Honeycrisp with Gala,Pinova,Pink Lady, Goldrush,in > >1997,Produced hundreds of seedling trees I planted in >1998,also made 2 limb > >grafts of each on 5 year old M-9 and B-9 trees,some old Golden Del and > >others.,started getting apples on the limb grafts in 2 years, the seedlings > >some at 4 years, Afew of the limb >grafts (20-30) of of 900,were outstanding > >in quality right away while the seedling tree's apples were tasteless or off > >flavored but looked the same, Now,some years later the seedlings still are > >worthless >in Quality (taste,dissolved solids),even when properly thinned, > >Whats going on here,are all apples more tasty on dwarf? and less quality on > >seedling?Will the seedling ever be any good?The seedlings range > >from 12 feet to 40. I don't expect to sell any of these, this is an > experiment. Lee Elliott, Winchester,Illinois, Upstart Nursery > > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
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