We did some work in 2000 comparing spore loads (Penicillium species, the most 
common of which causes blue mold) on wooden bins and plastic bins. Both sets of 
bins had been used for a number of seasons, and both came from the same apple 
storage operation.  We pulled them out of their empty bin piles in July and 
made no attempt to sanitize them before running them through an overhead bin 
drencher and then evaluating spore load by dilution plating of the drencher 
water. Some of the bins (both wooden and plastic) still had remnants of decayed 
fruit stuck on the bin floors.

 One would assume that plastic bins, which appear relatively smooth compared to 
wooden bins, would harbor far less inoculum.  In fact, we washed off roughly 
2.2 billion Penicillium spores per bin from wooden bins and about 483 million 
spores per bin from the plastic bins.  Thus, plastic bins may appear cleaner, 
but they can still harbor huge numbers of decay spores and other organisms.  We 
also made an attempt to sanitize both kinds of bins using a quaternary ammonium 
sanitizer.  Although we lowered spore numbers a bit with the sanitizer, we 
failed to really clean up either wooden or plastic bins in that trial in 2000.  
In retrospect, I realized that part of the failure in using the sanitizer was 
that our sanitizer solution was made using well water (presumably 55 F) and the 
contact time at that low temp was too short to get a good kill.  Nevertheless, 
that work showed that sanitizing plastic bins is not much easier than 
sanitizing wooden bins.   (Not all Penicillium species cause fruit decay, and 
we did not determine how many of the spores recovered from bins were the 
primary decay pathogen, P. expansum.  Nevertheless, the conclusions about 
"cleanliness of bins still holds.)

One of my gripes about the plastic bins is that most of them have an 
open-celled grid-work of reinforcing plastic on the underside of the bin floor. 
 This reinforcing grid adds a tremendous amount of surface area for harboring 
dirt and spores and makes the undersides of the bins difficult to clean apart 
from using a high-pressure washer that directs the water flow to the undersides 
of the bins.

Although plastic bins are not necessarily "clean" or easier to sanitize, I am 
still a proponent of using plastic bins.  They stack better, support stack 
loads more reliably, and result in less bruising/scuffing of fruit that are in 
contact with the sides of the bin. One packinghouse operator told me that after 
they switched to plastic bins, they were amazed at how the switch had reduced 
their cullage for scuffing/bruising and that the reduced cullage over several 
years would go a long way toward helping to pay for the bins.

Another area that no one has explored involves the foul "storage odors" that 
sometimes occur in apple storage rooms where wooden bins are used.  Old wooden 
bins are full of basidiomycete wood decay fungi, and some of those fungi 
produce rather nasty odors.  The wine industry struggled with off odors the 
came from fungi that were sometimes present in the corks (which are really just 
processed tree bark) until they learned to sanitize the corks by microwaving 
(or to avoid the problem by switching to synthetics).  I don't think that the 
foul odors in apple storages have any impact on fruit quality.  Although some 
of those off odors are evident on fruit eaten immediately after they are 
removed from the storage room, my perception is that any off odors that 
penetrate into the apple skin disappear quickly after the fruit are removed 
from storage, washed and packed.  Nevertheless, if we are storing FOOD, it 
seems logical that the storage rooms should smell like apples, not like rotting 
wood.  And speaking of perceptions, while plastic bins may not be free of 
fungal spores, they definitely LOOK cleaner and in today's world, it seems 
increasingly true that "perception is reality."


On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:43 AM, "Kushad, Mosbah M" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Leslie:  I am interested in their sanitation, ease of staking and storage, 
cost effectiveness, ease of washing, and any other issues related to 
differences in both material.  Thanks, Mosbah Kushad University of Illinois

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>From a disease viewpoint or what exactly are you interested in?

Leslie
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Subject: [apple-crop] Apple bins

I am interested to read the opinion/experience of the group with plastic or 
wooden and collapsible or non-collapsible bins.   Thanks, Mosbah Kushad, 
University of Illinois


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