Hi, there, y'all. Rodney, here. I guess I should have lurked a while longer and kept my big mouth shut... If there's anything I hate worse than admitting my ignorance, it's demonstrating it. Now that the worst is behind me <sheepish grin> can somebody please help me recover my honor. (Didn't somebody once say "There's no dishonor in ignorance but there's no honor in ignoring it"? ... or did I make that up?) I've spent most of the morning going through the Apple Knowledge Base and Apple Knowledge Archives trying to figure out what I'm missing. My [obviously mistaken] understanding had been that ClarisWorks was an original application, created by Claris, that evolved up to v. CW 5 and then was bought out by Apple, the name changed to AppleWorks (beginning with v. AW5) and then evolving to AW 6. Now I'm getting the impression that there's something else to the story. Could somebody please set me straight. What's the difference between AppleWorks, ClarisWorks, and AppleWorks (or maybe I should say "... between apples and oranges..." ;-) ? Thanks a lot and best regards, Rodney (eating humble pie in Hayama, Japan) PS I'm sure y'all realized I was just trying to be helpful. > >On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, "A.W. Neef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've done it for years, but darned if I can now remember how to >> > set a row or column to display and print negative spreadsheet >> > values in parenthesis rather than with the minus sign. > >------------------------------ > >Rodney A. Hoiseth responded: > >It depends on the spreadsheet program you're using. E.g., in >ClarisWorks, it's >> Select the row or column >> then "Format menu" --> "Number..." --> [Checkbox] >>"Negatives in ( )" >> or Command + Shift + N --> > >[Checkbox] "Negatives in ( )" >> > >------------------------------ > >"A.W. Neef" replied > >Sorry, my error ... >>I forgot this is an A2 List, not an AW List. I just assumed all would know >>I was inquiring about "real" AppleWorks. I'm using AW5.1. >> >>I misled Rodney A. Hoiseth. He responded about ClarisWorks (a most logical >>mistake, ever since Apple robbed that most revered software name, and >>tacked it on that other software, ClarisWorks). > > > >[snip] >> > > Now ... the final answer to my query (I think): > > > >The option of choosing to display negative values either parenthesized, or >>with the minus sign ... is available in the AW5.1 database, but NOT in the >>AW5.1 spreadsheet. Both Bud Simrin and I just remembered doing it, but did > >not distinguish between the ADB and ASP capabilities. At 15:30 -0400 2001/09/11, in Apple2list Digest #122: >Rodney A. Hoiseth wrote: >As I said in my original response, it depends on the spreadsheet >program you're using. >AW 6 spreadsheets work exactly the same as ClarisWorks: >1. Select the cells you want to format. >2. Select "Number..." [Options: General] from the "Format" menu (or >access the dialogue box with "Command + Shift + N") >3. Put a Check in the checkbox that says "Show Negatives in Parentheses". > >I never went through AW5. I use only CW 4 and AW6; but it seems odd >that AW5 would have been different... >"Go figger". > >------------------------------ > >Robert Boucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Doesn't the name of this list apple2, give you any hint of which >Appleworks 5.1 is being discussed? Apple2, like in Apple II+, Apple IIe >and Apple IIGS and the real Appleworks that runs on them. > >Bud Simrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > >> Now ... the final answer to my query (I think): > > > > The option of choosing to display negative values either parenthesized, or >> with the minus sign ... is available in the AW5.1 database, but NOT in the >> AW5.1 spreadsheet. Both Bud Simrin and I just remembered doing it, but did >> not distinguish between the ADB and ASP capabilities. >> >> -- Bill Neef Grass Lake, MI, USA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Cheez!!! You forced me to actually start up AW 5.1. Try oa-L. That might do >the trick. When I entered a negative number in an unformatted cell, it >viewed as -5. When I changed the layout, oa-L, to "comma", it viewed as (5). >There are other layout choices as well. > >(But, you were right that when I suggested oa-O I was inadvertently thinking >database, not spreadsheet.) > >------------------------------ > >Bud Simrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > > From: Robert Boucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Use oa-L-Columns-Valueformat-Commas >Sorry, Robert. You beat me to the punch but I hadn't gotten down to your >response yet. > >------------------------------ > > "A.W. Neef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >Subject: Re: parenthesis vs minus sign > >to: Bud Simrin > >from: Bill Neef > >I tried (oa-O), (oa-L), (oa-V), and (oa-Q, oa-S, #15 Spreadsheet Options). > >None would permit displaying negative Values parenthesized in the Percent >format in my ASP file. > >We need Bev's expertise. :o) > >PS: Rodney has added compexity to this discussion by injecting > ClarisWorks and AppleWorks-Mac to this discussion. 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