You seem to be the one with the attitude, negative. Bill Garber
----- Original Message ----- From: "Byron Q. Desnoyers Winmill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Apple2list" <apple2list@mail.maclaunch.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:16 PM Subject: IIgs memory : On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 09:35:44PM -0400, Bill Garber wrote: : > and maybe if more people had IIgs's that could handle it, there : > would be more developers willing to create new software or port : > over more from other platforms. : : That's doubtful. Given that the platform has a few hundred active : users, there is no financial incentive in it. Worse yet, there is : a financial disincentive since you end up paying through the nose : to do anything. : : For example, you want to develop software. Opus ][ is about $100, : a 4 MB RAM card would be nice for Opus ][ (add $45), a hard drive : is nice too (add $100 for the controller), then there is the : documentation (the Toolbox reference is $135, plus additional books : if you need more hardware oriented materials). We're already up : to $380. Say $400 if the computer, monitor, and floppy drives were : twenty bucks. Given the speed of the Orca compilers, you will : probably want a TWGS/ZipGS or to host the developer tools on an : emulator on another machine, costing $200 (accelerator) or free : (emulator). : : You probably won't recover your costs, nevermind the value of your : time, so you'll probably see more initiated project that never see : the light of day than anything else. : : > Duh, read on my friend, the first, and only the first 4 MB of : > IIgs ram is directly addressable. The rest has to be decoded by : > means of loads of logic. : : Why is this? Does the memory expansion slot give you direct access : to the address and data lines, and you have to make sure you don't : interfere with system memory areas? : : > Better not mess with someone who has researched this in the past : > several years. You don't think I'm doing this from 20 year old : > memories, do ya? : : I'm not trying to mess with you in the hardware design area, but : you are free to educate me if you wish. : : > Go hang with them then. I certainly don't need you. : : For the last five years, I pretty much have been because of this : attitude. : : > Just kidding. : : I'm not. : : Byron. : : -- : Apple2list is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... : : / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ : / <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac> \ : : Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> : : Apple2list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/apple2.html> : --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; : Send list messages to: <mailto:apple2list@mail.maclaunch.com> : To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/apple2list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> : : iPod Accessories for Less : at 1-800-iPOD.COM : Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal : www.1800ipod.com -- Apple2list is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac> \ Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Apple2list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/apple2.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:apple2list@mail.maclaunch.com> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/apple2list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
