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And see my website - http://technewsreview.com.au/ - for daily updates in between postings. *************************************************** The domain name news is supported by auDA *************************************************** Stephen Colbert interviews Nicholas Carr on the future of the internet http://technewsreview.com.au/article.php?article=6071 Australian poll finds men happiest online, women prefer family time http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4713476a28.html Google 'Goliath' Microsoft says http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7647399.stm Browser metrics: IE slide continues, Firefox users update http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9116003 Becta says Web 2.0 motivates schoolkids http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/01/becta_web_2_0_school_kids/ Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/10/02/1222651229837.html Phorm rolls out next BT trial tomorrow http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2008/sep/29/advertising Norway pressures Apple to ditch iTunes DRM http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9115784 Apple faces iTunes test case in Norway [AP] http://iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/29/europe/EU-Norway-iTunes.php Nokia to take on Apple in music and touch-screen phones http://uk.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUKTRE49113H20081002 Apple threatens to shut down iTunes over royalty hike http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4859885.ece Surveillance of Skype Messages Found in China http://iht.com/articles/2008/10/02/technology/02skype.php Britain sets up online child safety watchdog http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/sep/29/childprotection.children US Senate bill sets guidelines for cybersecurity center http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10056047-38.html Google Touts Energy Efficient Data Centers http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/01/google-touts-energy-efficient-data-centers/ African regulators to impose fines for poor mobile service [IDG] http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/093008-african-regulators-to-impose-fines.html Road test: Does WiMAX work in the real world? http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/093008-wimax-road-test.html Many Roadblocks for Mobile Advertising [IDG] http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/151732/many_roadblocks_for_mobile_advertising.html Spain cracks down on child porn http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/01/spain1 Spain holds 121 over child porn http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7645626.stm ********************** INTERNET USE ********************** Stephen Colbert interviews Nicholas Carr on the future of the internet Stephen Colbert interviews Nicholas Carr about the future of the internet, the subject of Carr’s book. But Stephen wonders if Carr actually knows what he’s talking about... since he’s written a book about it. http://technewsreview.com.au/article.php?article=6071 EU wants to take lead in 'Web 3.0' technology [IDG] European Telecommunications Commissioner Viviane Reding won glowing praise for her vision of the Internet 3.0 Monday from Vint Cerf, one of the creators of the Web and now Google's vice president and chief Internet evangelist. http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/151635/eu_wants_to_take_lead_in_web_30_technology.html http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/092908-eu-wants-to-take-lead.html 77% of Koreans use Web Some 77 percent of Koreans use the internet, spending an average of 13.7 hours online each week, a government poll showed yesterday. http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article-eastasia.asp?parentid=98237 Australian poll finds men happiest online, women prefer family time For men, bliss is often just a mouse-click away while quality time with family is guaranteed to put a smile on women's faces, according to an Australian study of what makes people happy. http://uk.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUKTRE49080X20081001 http://in.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idINIndia-35757520081001 http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4713476a28.html Google 'Goliath' Microsoft says The chief executive of Microsoft has admitted that his firm's slowness to grasp the potential of internet search had hit the business. Steve Ballmer told the BBC that Microsoft had become a "David" in search alongside the "Goliath" of its arch-rival Google. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7647399.stm Browser metrics: IE slide continues, Firefox users update Microsoft's Internet Explorer (IE) continued to lose market share in September, Google's Chrome stabilized at under 1 percent and more than half of Firefox 2.0 users accepted an offer to update to Version 3.0, a Web metrics firm said Wednesday. http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9116003 http://computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1666968518 How the Internet Might Grow a 'Heart' What if there were a way for you to directly help the neediest families in your community and the world -- or for help to find you, after a fire, flood or some personal tragedy -- without the involvement of a government agency, nonprofit organization or church? What if assistance could flow seamlessly, based on information routinely collected and resources instantly deployed online? http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/151754/how_the_internet_might_grow_a_heart.html Becta says Web 2.0 motivates schoolkids Over half of teachers in UK schools believe that Web 2.0 apps should be used in lessons, even though the majority of them have never used such resources in the classroom. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/01/becta_web_2_0_school_kids/ ********************** NEW TECHNOLOGIES ********************** Fast forward for mobile broadband Phone firms, chip makers and PC manufacturers are uniting to push mobile broadband on laptop computers. The alliance will build wireless modules into laptops to make it much easier to use the gadgets on future high-speed services. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7642948.stm Rotten smell raises Apple toxin fears Apple is investigating damning claims, published in a leading French newspaper, that its computers emit a toxic odor containing chemicals including the cancer-causing benzene. http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2008/10/02/1222651229837.html http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/10/02/1222651229837.html What effect will the financial crisis have on the tech sector? Expect to see a slowdown in smartphone sales and a concomitant growth in the use of open source, cloud computing and virtualisation technology as consumers cut back on their "discretionary" purchases while businesses, strapped for credit (because banks won't have it to lend), decide to make the best of what they've got and squeeze the last possible drops of life from the hardware they have, while reducing costs on software as far as possible. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/oct/02/twitter.microsoft ********************** SPAM ********************** Telstra blames Spam Act for impersonal Tweets Telstra has hit back at claims its BigPond Twitter support feed is bot-like, arguing that personalising the messages would contravene the Spam Act. http://itnews.com.au/News/NewsStory.aspx?story=85768 ********************** DIGITAL DIVIDE ********************** uk: Tories call for more action on digital divide The Conservative Party is urging the government to do more to tackle the digital divide. Tory front-bench spokesman Jeremy Wright told a fringe meeting organised by Online Services at the party conference in Birmingham that the market is helping to close the gap between those with access to the internet and those without, thanks to an increasing number of web-enabled mobile devices. http://www.computing.co.uk/computing/news/2227120/tories-call-action-digital US Congress OKs Greater Broadband Access [AP] Congress has passed legislation that will require the government to keep closer tabs on who has access to the Internet and who does not. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/30/AR2008093002469.html ************************** ONLINE CRIME, SECURITY & LEGAL ************************** Fighting the scourge of scareware Microsoft and Washington State's Attorney General filed lawsuits against scam artists who frighten consumers into buying useless software. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7645420.stm Fright Fight: Washington Attorney General leading battle against scareware with Microsoft [news release] Attorney General Rob McKenna stood at the frontlines with Microsoft Corp. in the war against spyware in 2006. Now armed with tougher legislation, the state’s top law enforcement officer, with the world’s largest software company, is charging forward with new lawsuits targeting scareware purveyors. http://atg.wa.gov/pressrelease.aspx?&id=21026 Lawsuit targets 'scareware' distributors [AFP] Microsoft and a top prosecutor have filed a lawsuit to stop "scareware purveyors" that trick people with pop-up messages claiming computers need critical repairs. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/10/01/1222651142395.html http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2008/10/01/1222651142395.html Britain's first internet crime unit to be established The first specialist internet crime unit in Britain is being set up by Scotland Yard to fight £50 billion worth of fraud and organised "cyber" crime, ministers announced. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3111293/Britains-first-internet-crime-unit-to-be-established.html au/ng: Nigerian held on web fraud QUEENSLAND police have helped Nigerian authorities nab a 23-year-old Nigerian man who allegedly used a fake female profile on a romance website to defraud a Queensland man of $20,000. http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,24423872-15306,00.html au: PayPal repays victim A PayPal member and victim of fraud on eBay who had been seeking compensation received a refund days before an expose of the companies' operations by the ABC's 7.30 Report was scheduled to air. http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,24423910-15306,00.html us: Porn-surfing laptop thief caught by own stupidity [AP] A New York laptop thief got caught - after the computer owner tracked him remotely. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10535344 ************************** PRIVACY ************************** Phorm: British Telecom Wants to Watch While Internet providers in the United States have backed off, for now, from the idea they may be able to make money by selling information on where their customers surf on the Internet, British Telecom is still moving forward with the idea. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/29/british-telecom-wants-to-watch/ BT to kick off fresh Phorm trial Telecoms giant BT is about to start further trials of a controversial internet advertising technology. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7641754.stm Phorm rolls out next BT trial tomorrow When we had the government's verdict on Phorm's ad-targeting technology two weeks ago, and the Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform had decided, in its infinite wisdom, that the service does not breach European data laws and is "legal, appropriate and transparent". http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2008/sep/29/advertising BT rolls out Phorm web tracking Thousands of BT broadband customers are to have their internet usage tracked so they can be sent targeted online advertising in a final trial before the service is launched network-wide. http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4847212.ece BT to begin third Phorm trial After a delay of more than half a year, BT on Tuesday will begin another trial of the ad-serving tech that has been opposed by peers, privacy groups, and think tanks. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39495675,00.htm http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10053465-93.html German Towns Saying 'Nein' to Google 'Street View' Google's corporate slogan might be "don't be evil," but some communities in northwestern Germany see something nefarious in the company's photographing all their streets and houses. If they get their way, they will remain black holes in Google's ambitious mapping of the universe. http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,581177,00.html ********************** ONLINE TV & MUSIC ********************** Norway pressures Apple to ditch iTunes DRM Norway's top consumer advocate said today that he will ask a government court to force Apple Inc. to open the iTunes music store to users who own music players other than the iPod. http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9115784 Apple faces iTunes test case in Norway [AP] Norway's top consumer advocate announced the start of legal action Monday to try to force Apple Inc. to open its iTunes music store to digital players other than its own market-leading iPod. http://iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/29/europe/EU-Norway-iTunes.php http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10534929 Artists head for MySpace 'exodus' There will be an "exodus" of music artists from MySpace in a row over the website's new music download service, a record label boss has warned. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7643827.stm Nokia to take on Apple in music and touch-screen phones The world's top mobile phone maker Nokia will launch its free music package on Thursday, which analysts see posing a serious threat to Apple's dominance in the digital music business. http://uk.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUKTRE49113H20081002 http://in.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idINIndia-35762020081002 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/01/AR2008100103744.html Nokia pitches Tube into touchscreen tussle Nokia will join the most hotly contested consumer electronics battle this week when it introduces its first touchscreen phone. http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article4856952.ece Apple threatens to shut down iTunes over royalty hike Apple could shut down iTunes, the world's biggest online music store, if a ruling expected tomorrow forces the company to pay more to music makers for each downloaded track. http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4859885.ece New industry group takes aim at 'net pollution,' piracy [IDG] A group of technology and entertainment heavyweights is undertaking a public relations campaign to dissuade consumers from illegal file sharing, something the group calls "net pollution." http://computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1019522502 ********************** CENSORSHIP ********************** Surveillance of Skype Messages Found in China A group of Canadian human-rights activists and computer security researchers has discovered a huge surveillance system in China that monitors and archives certain Internet text conversations that include politically charged words. http://nytimes.com/2008/10/02/technology/internet/02skype.html http://iht.com/articles/2008/10/02/technology/02skype.php China Skype service snags and stores users' messages Human rights advocates have uncovered a huge surveillance system in China that monitors and archives text messages sent with the Tom-Skype chat client when they contain politically charged words. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/02/skype_surveillance_in_china/ ************************************************ CHILD PROTECTION, FILTERING & CONTENT REGULATION ************************************************ 'Extreme' extreme porn law puts Scots out of kilter If you thought Scotland might be a safe place to stash your collection of dubious erotic artwork when legislation on extreme porn comes into force, think again. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/30/scotland_extreme_pr0n_law/ ACMA blocks child porn websites The Australian Communications and Media Authority says it has blocked a network of child pornography sites in Australia after a tip-off from a member of the public. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/01/2379596.htm http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/news/stories/200810/s2379585.htm Complaint from the public results in network of child sexual abuse websites being brought down [news release] The Australian Communications and Media Authority has collaborated with the Irish Internet Hotline to disable a network of websites that provided access to child sexual abuse material. http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_311406 Irish tip-off leads to closure of child porn websites A tip-off from a member of the Irish public has led to the shutting down of a network of child pornography websites. http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/irish-tipoff-leads-to-closure-of-child-porn-websites-1486602.html http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/breaking-news/ireland/irish-tipoff-leads-to-closure-of-child-porn-websites-13988480.html http://www.kerryman.ie/breaking-news/national-news/irish-tipoff-leads-to-closure-of-child-porn-websites-1486602.html http://www.drogheda-independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/irish-tipoff-leads-to-closure-of-child-porn-websites-1486602.html Aussie-registered sexual abuse sites shut down A network of websites registered in Australia that reportedly provided access to child sexual abuse material have been shut down in a joint operation between Irish and local authorities. http://itnews.com.au/News/NewsStory.aspx?story=85790 Irish hotline helps close child pornography websites A complaint by an Irish person to an internet hotline in Ireland has resulted in the removal of a network of child pornography websites in Australia. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/1001/breaking21.htm Child porn websites smashed after Irish tip-off A network of child pornography websites has been smashed with the help of a member of the Irish public. http://www.midlandsradio.fm/news_detail.aspx?footer=1&news_id=6710 Britain sets up online child safety watchdog Cyber-bullying, online pornography, violent video games and websites that encourage young people to harm themselves are to be targeted by a new watchdog launched by the government today. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/sep/29/childprotection.children Children's web watchdog launched A new internet watchdog has been launched to help protect children from "harmful" web content, such as cyber-bullying and violent video games. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7638492.stm Government launches online child safety watchdog Protecting children from harmful content on the web is the remit of a new watchdog that has been set up by the Government. http://www.vnunet.com/computeractive/news/2227125/government-launches-online The ISTTF: Chicken or egg? "ISTTF" stands for Internet Safety Technical Task Force, the result of an agreement last January between 49 state attorneys general (minus Texas) and MySpace. The emphasis is on the word "technical," because the attorneys general basically charged the task force, of which I'm a member, with reviewing technical solutions to online youth risk - "age verification" technology being their stated predetermined solution of choice. Why? Because they're law enforcement people. They deal with crime - not all these other subjects that have come up in online-youth and social-media research - so they probably feel that this is all about crime and technology, so some technology that separates adult criminals from online kids, or that somehow identifies every American on the Web, is what will make the Internet safe for youth. http://www.netfamilynews.org/2008/09/isttf-chicken-or-egg.html ************************** GOVERNMENT & PUBLIC POLICY ************************** US Senate bill sets guidelines for cybersecurity center A new authorization bill would give the White House more oversight of the Homeland Security Department's much-beleaguered cybersecurity efforts. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10056047-38.html us: IP piracy bill passes through US Congress [IDG] The U.S. House of Representatives on Sunday passed a bill that would significantly increase penalties for copyright infringement and create a new office of intellectual-property enforcement coordinator in the White House. http://nytimes.com/idg/IDG_852573C400693880002574D3004F1C93.html http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/09/29/IP_piracy_bill_passed_by_US_Congress_1.html http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/092908-ip-piracy-bill-passes-through.html Obama Calls for Broadband Deployment During Debate [IDG] Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic candidate for U.S. president, mentioned broadband rollout as one of his top priorities during a debate Friday evening, bringing applause from several groups promoting universally available broadband as a key part of a turn-around in the U.S. economy. http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/151651/obama_calls_for_broadband_deployment_during_debate.html Google Goes to Washington, Gearing Up to Put Its Stamp on Government The tall buildings in Reston bear the familiar names of big government contractors: Northrop Grumman, CACI, Raytheon and Accenture. Last month another name appeared, but not one that's typically associated with the federal market. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/28/AR2008092802216.html ********************************* COMMENT, MICROSOFT & DEVELOPMENTS ********************************* Google Touts Energy Efficient Data Centers Google is many things: The most used Internet search engine, the largest seller of online advertising, the busiest online video site (YouTube), a maker of maps, e-mail and scores of other applications delivered over the Web. And all these things are possible because, first and foremost, Google is a massive collection of electricity-hungry data centers, packed with hundreds of thousands of computers that deliver all these digital services almost instantly to virtually any computer around the globe. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/01/google-touts-energy-efficient-data-centers/ Google says its data centers are the most efficient [IDG] Google's leadership on the Web stems partly from its powerful data centers, which allow it to provide lightning-fast search results while keeping energy costs to a minimum. The company has been mostly secretive about what goes on inside these giant computing factories, but on Wednesday it offered a peek at what it has been able to achieve -- on the energy side at least. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/100108-google-says-its-data-centers.html Google search for cleaner energy unveiled Google aims to do for the power grid what it did for the Web. The company, which conquered the market for Web search by first simplifying how it is done and then making sales of related advertising more efficient, is funding green technology and using its brand power to lobby for policy change. http://in.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idINIndia-35760020081002 ********************** MOBILE/WIRELESS ********************** African regulators to impose fines for poor mobile service [IDG] African communications regulators are moving to combat poor services by mobile service providers by imposing heavy fines. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/093008-african-regulators-to-impose-fines.html Road test: Does WiMAX work in the real world? Just a couple short years ago, many people were abuzz over metro Wi-Fi experiments in Philadelphia, Houston, and San Francisco, only to see those efforts largely collapse as slow speeds, expensive deployments, and economic tussles between carriers and municipalities resulted in low adoption. But waiting in the wings for several years has been the promise of WiMAX technology to deliver broadband connectivity wirelessly across entire cities with less equipment to deploy than metro Wi-Fi. After nearly two years of uncertainty, Sprint and its partner Clearwire are now starting to set up WiMAX networks in several cities. http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/093008-wimax-road-test.html Sprint's WiMax Shines on Price, Not on Coverage [IDG] Prices and terms for the WiMax service that Sprint Nextel launched on Monday stand up against other wired and wireless broadband options, but a key measure -- coverage -- remains a question mark. http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/151709/sprints_wimax_shines_on_price_not_on_coverage.html http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9115918 XOHM WiMAX Broadband Service Debuts in Baltimore [news release] A next-generation 4G wireless network based on mobile WiMAX technology debuted today in Baltimore, heralding the start of a new era for wireless consumers as Sprint officially launched XOHM TM mobile broadband commercial service in the first major U.S. city. http://xohm.com/en_US/about/news-events/press-release/news-092908.html US WiMax backers upbeat despite economic fears Even after Monday's stock market drop in the U.S. and a general tightening in the financial sector, WiMax equipment makers and wireless operators at WiMax World remain optimistic. http://computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9116012 Many Roadblocks for Mobile Advertising [IDG] The whole IT industry has high hopes for mobile advertising, but it's still in its infancy and has many hurdles to overcome before it can deliver on lofty promises of billion dollar revenues, according to analysts and ad agencies. Vendors are more upbeat. http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/151732/many_roadblocks_for_mobile_advertising.html ********************************** ARRESTS/COURT CASES FOR CHILD PORN ********************************** Spain cracks down on child porn Spanish police have arrested 121 people during nationwide raids in the biggest crackdown on internet child pornography in the country. A further 96 people are accused of possessing and distributing internet child pornography. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/01/spain1 Spain holds 121 over child porn Spanish police have arrested 121 people in what they described as the country's largest ever operation against internet child pornography. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7645626.stm Spain arrests 121 over child porn [AFP] Spanish police have arrested 121 people in nationwide raids as part of the biggest operation against internet child pornography ever carried out in the country. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/01/2379634.htm 121 arrested in Spain for child porn Spanish police have arrested 121 men and seized millions of computer files in the country's biggest operation against child pornography on the Internet. http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/10/01/spain.child.porn.arrests/ au: Police officer arrested on pornography charges Police from the Canobolas Area Command working with police from the Professional Standards Command in Sydney raided a house in Cowra on Thursday and arrested a probationary constable over possession of child pornography and a replica pistol. http://cowra.yourguide.com.au/news/local/news/general/police-officer-arrested-on-pornography-charges/1284966.aspx au: Cop arrested for child porn [AAP] A POLICE officer from has been charged with possessing child pornography after a raid triggered by authorities in Croatia. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24401724-1702,00.html au: Child porn case delayed for fifth time A PHILANTHROPIST and hospital patron accused of possessing child pornography has had the case against him delayed for the fifth time in just six months. http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24419116-5006301,00.html uk: Paedophile 'vigilante' found with child porn images A self-appointed internet policeman who once helped snare a paedophile was jailed yesterday for two years for making and distributing child pornography on his computer. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/paedophile-vigilante-found-with-child-porn-images-13986469.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The domain name news is supported by auDA For information on subscriptions to the domain name and/or general internet news please contact me. 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