Is the provided against the newest svn version of lispbuilder-sdl? The patch
doesn't apply cleanly for me.
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Adam Higuera <ahig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Some of the changes are just to get rid of compiler warnings.
>
> -Adam
>
> adam-higueras-macbook-pro:cocoahelper adamvh$ diff -u cocoahelper.m
> ~/Desktop/lispbuilder-sdl/cocoahelper/cocoahelper.m
> --- cocoahelper.m 2010-04-07 15:15:44.000000000 -0400
> +++ /Users/adamvh/Desktop/lispbuilder-sdl/cocoahelper/cocoahelper.m 2008-09-25
> 13:07:29.000000000 -0400
> @@ -14,17 +14,23 @@
> @interface SDLMain : NSObject
> @end
>
> -...@interface NSApplication(SDL_Missing_Methods)
> -- (void)setAppleMenu:(NSMenu *)menu;
> -...@end
> -
> /* Use this flag to determine whether we use SDLMain.nib or not */
> #define SDL_USE_NIB_FILE 0
>
> /* Use this flag to determine whether we use CPS (docking) or not */
> #define SDL_USE_CPS 1
> -//#undef SDL_USE_CPS
> +#undef SDL_USE_CPS
> #ifdef SDL_USE_CPS
> +/* Portions of CPS.h */
> +typedef struct CPSProcessSerNum
> +{
> + UInt32 lo;
> + UInt32 hi;
> +} CPSProcessSerNum;
> +
> +extern OSErr CPSGetCurrentProcess( CPSProcessSerNum *psn);
> +extern OSErr CPSEnableForegroundOperation( CPSProcessSerNum *psn, UInt32
> _arg2, UInt32 _arg3, UInt32 _arg4, UInt32 _arg5);
> +extern OSErr CPSSetFrontProcess( CPSProcessSerNum *psn);
>
> #endif /* SDL_USE_CPS */
>
> @@ -78,11 +84,11 @@
> {
> if (shouldChdir)
> {
> - unsigned char parentdir[MAXPATHLEN];
> + char parentdir[MAXPATHLEN];
> CFURLRef url = CFBundleCopyBundleURL(CFBundleGetMainBundle());
> CFURLRef url2 = CFURLCreateCopyDeletingLastPathComponent(0, url);
> if (CFURLGetFileSystemRepresentation(url2, true, parentdir, MAXPATHLEN))
> {
> - assert ( chdir ((char *)parentdir) == 0 ); /* chdir to the binary
> app's parent */
> + assert ( chdir (parentdir) == 0 ); /* chdir to the binary app's
> parent */
> }
> CFRelease(url);
> CFRelease(url2);
> @@ -199,11 +205,11 @@
>
> #ifdef SDL_USE_CPS
> {
> - ProcessSerialNumber PSN;
> + CPSProcessSerNum PSN;
> /* Tell the dock about us */
> - if (!GetCurrentProcess(&PSN))
> - if (!TransformProcessType(&PSN,
> kProcessTransformToForegroundApplication))
> - if (!SetFrontProcess(&PSN))
> + if (!CPSGetCurrentProcess(&PSN))
> + if (!CPSEnableForegroundOperation(&PSN,0x03,0x3C,0x2C,0x1103))
> + if (!CPSSetFrontProcess(&PSN))
> [SDLApplication sharedApplication];
> }
> #endif /* SDL_USE_CPS */
> @@ -285,7 +291,7 @@
> ProcessSerialNumber processSerialNum;
> CustomApplicationMain (0, NULL);
> GetCurrentProcess(&processSerialNum);
> - TransformProcessType(&processSerialNum,
> kProcessTransformToForegroundApplication);
> + CPSEnableForegroundOperation (&processSerialNum);
> SetFrontProcess(&processSerialNum);
> }
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Elliott Slaughter <
> elliottslaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Would you mind providing a unified diff (i.e. pass the -u option to diff)?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Adam Higuera <ahig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the output of a regular old diff:
>>>
>>> adam-higueras-macbook-pro:cocoahelper adamvh$ diff cocoahelper.m
>>> ~/Desktop/lispbuilder-sdl/cocoahelper/cocoahelper.m
>>> 17,20d16
>>> < @interface NSApplication(SDL_Missing_Methods)
>>> < - (void)setAppleMenu:(NSMenu *)menu;
>>> < @end
>>> <
>>> 26c22
>>> < //#undef SDL_USE_CPS
>>> ---
>>> > #undef SDL_USE_CPS
>>> 27a24,33
>>> > /* Portions of CPS.h */
>>> > typedef struct CPSProcessSerNum
>>> > {
>>> > UInt32 lo;
>>> > UInt32 hi;
>>> > } CPSProcessSerNum;
>>> >
>>> > extern OSErr CPSGetCurrentProcess( CPSProcessSerNum *psn);
>>> > extern OSErr CPSEnableForegroundOperation( CPSProcessSerNum *psn,
>>> UInt32 _arg2, UInt32 _arg3, UInt32 _arg4, UInt32 _arg5);
>>> > extern OSErr CPSSetFrontProcess( CPSProcessSerNum *psn);
>>> 81c87
>>> < unsigned char parentdir[MAXPATHLEN];
>>> ---
>>> > char parentdir[MAXPATHLEN];
>>> 85c91
>>> < assert ( chdir ((char *)parentdir) == 0 ); /* chdir to the binary
>>> app's parent */
>>> ---
>>> > assert ( chdir (parentdir) == 0 ); /* chdir to the binary
>>> app's parent */
>>> 202c208
>>> < ProcessSerialNumber PSN;
>>> ---
>>> > CPSProcessSerNum PSN;
>>> 204,206c210,212
>>> < if (!GetCurrentProcess(&PSN))
>>> < if (!TransformProcessType(&PSN,
>>> kProcessTransformToForegroundApplication))
>>> < if (!SetFrontProcess(&PSN))
>>> ---
>>> > if (!CPSGetCurrentProcess(&PSN))
>>> > if
>>> (!CPSEnableForegroundOperation(&PSN,0x03,0x3C,0x2C,0x1103))
>>> > if (!CPSSetFrontProcess(&PSN))
>>> 288c294
>>> < TransformProcessType(&processSerialNum,
>>> kProcessTransformToForegroundApplication);
>>> ---
>>> > CPSEnableForegroundOperation (&processSerialNum);
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Elliott Slaughter <
>>> elliottslaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, if you "svn diff" the files, I or someone else can commit the
>>>> changes. I'm sure that's probably not the "right" way to go about this, but
>>>> it works :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Adam Higuera <ahig...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, there are also a few things I found in cocoahelper that I think
>>>>> should be changed. It uses the deprecated function
>>>>> CPSEnableForegroundOperation,
>>>>> which should really be replaced with TransformProcessType. I'm not
>>>>> exactly sure how to submit a patch but I would be glad to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Adam Higuera <ahig...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> After realizing that everything worked fine if I launched SBCL from
>>>>>> the terminal instead of slime and hunting around the mailing list, I
>>>>>> discovered the following fix (which I believe is now on the wiki):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Putting the line
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (setf swank:*communication-style* :fd-handler)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in the file ~/.swank.lisp allows the SDL examples to run when launched
>>>>>> from SLIME. The earlier messages I was looking at seemed to think that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> problem might be due to SLIME's default policy of spawning new threads
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Cocoa's idiosyncracies with respect to drawing from outside the main
>>>>>> thread.
>>>>>> I'm not entirely familiar with either of these topics, but I have a
>>>>>> feeling
>>>>>> both my problem and the problems with CCL are related to this issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Elliott Slaughter <
>>>>>> elliottslaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have never seen this problem in SBCL before. I have been using the
>>>>>>> official SDL framework with SBCL 1.0.37 on Leopard without any trouble
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you should answer the usual version questions (i.e. SBCL, SDL,
>>>>>>> lispbuilder, XCode versions)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Luke, thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Adam Higuera <ahig...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No it is sbcl.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Elliott Slaughter <
>>>>>>>> elliottslaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you using Clozure CL? This is a known issue with CCL, but SBCL,
>>>>>>>>> CLISP, and Allegro should work fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So (assuming my diagnosis is right) you can either help us solve
>>>>>>>>> this bug with CCL, or switch to a different Lisp for now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Adam Higuera <ahig...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alright, everything has built and I can run the examples, but when
>>>>>>>>>> I run them, they don't seem to work quite right, i.e. there isn't a
>>>>>>>>>> bar on
>>>>>>>>>> the window and there is no menu bar, nor is there an app icon in the
>>>>>>>>>> dock.
>>>>>>>>>> I've attached a screenshot of what happens.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is this supposed to happen is there something else I need to do to
>>>>>>>>>> get this working all the way?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is beach-balling at the time, though you can't see it in the
>>>>>>>>>> screenshot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (re-sent because attachment was huge - sorry - moderator can deny
>>>>>>>>>> previous message)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Adam Higuera
>>>>>>>>>> <ahig...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alright, everything has built and I can run the examples, but
>>>>>>>>>>> when I run them, they don't seem to work quite right, i.e. there
>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a bar
>>>>>>>>>>> on the window and there is no menu bar, nor is there an app icon in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> dock. I've attached a screenshot of what happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is this supposed to happen is there something else I need to do
>>>>>>>>>>> to get this working all the way?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is beach-balling at the time, though you can't see it in the
>>>>>>>>>>> screenshot.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Adam Higuera
>>>>>>>>>>> <ahig...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Still have these warnings, but it appears to have compiled:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m: In function ‘-[SDLMain setupWorkingDirectory:]’:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:90: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 3
>>>>>>>>>>>> of ‘CFURLGetFileSystemRepresentation’ differ in signedness
>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m: In function ‘setApplicationMenu’:
>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: no ‘-setAppleMenu:’ method found
>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: (Messages without a matching method
>>>>>>>>>>>> signature
>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: will be assumed to return ‘id’ and
>>>>>>>>>>>> accept
>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: ‘...’ as arguments.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Elliott Slaughter <
>>>>>>>>>>>> elliottslaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note: this patch is for lispbuilder-sdl/cocoahelper/Makefile,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lispbuilder-sdl/Makefile.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Elliott Slaughter <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> elliottslaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How did you install SDL? You don't seem to have sdl-config
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed, so I assume you are using SDL.framework? If so, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patch might work for you:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Index: Makefile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===================================================================
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Makefile (revision 1464)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +++ Makefile (working copy)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.dylib : cocoahelper.m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - gcc -c cocoahelper.m -o cocoahelper.o -fPIC `sdl-config
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --cflags`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - gcc -dynamiclib -o cocoahelper.dylib cocoahelper.o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -framework Cocoa `sdl-config --libs`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + gcc -c cocoahelper.m -o cocoahelper.o -fPIC -I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Library/Frameworks/SDL.framework/Headers/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + gcc -dynamiclib -o cocoahelper.dylib cocoahelper.o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -framework Cocoa -framework SDL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.framework: cocoahelper.dylib
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rm -rf cocoahelper.framework
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let us know if that helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Adam Higuera <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ahig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded lispbuilder-sdl from the google code page, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempted to build cocoahelper. The result is the following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set of error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adam-higueras-macbook-pro:cocoahelper adamvh$ make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gcc -c cocoahelper.m -o cocoahelper.o -fPIC `sdl-config
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --cflags`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /bin/sh: sdl-config: command not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:8:16: error: SDL.h: No such file or directory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m: In function ‘-[SDLApplication terminate:]’:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:73: error: ‘SDL_Event’ undeclared (first use in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this function)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:73: error: (Each undeclared identifier is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reported only once
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:73: error: for each function it appears in.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:73: error: syntax error before ‘event’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:74: error: ‘event’ undeclared (first use in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this function)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:74: error: ‘SDL_QUIT’ undeclared (first use in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this function)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m: In function ‘-[SDLMain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setupWorkingDirectory:]’:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:90: warning: pointer targets in passing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument 3 of ‘CFURLGetFileSystemRepresentation’ differ in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signedness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m: In function ‘setApplicationMenu’:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: no ‘-setAppleMenu:’ method found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: (Messages without a matching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method signature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: will be assumed to return ‘id’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: ‘...’ as arguments.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make: *** [cocoahelper.dylib] Error 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, if I replace the line
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #import "SDL.h"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #import <SDL/SDL.h>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I instead get the error messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adam-higueras-macbook-pro:cocoahelper adamvh$ make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gcc -c cocoahelper.m -o cocoahelper.o -fPIC `sdl-config
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --cflags`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /bin/sh: sdl-config: command not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m: In function ‘-[SDLMain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setupWorkingDirectory:]’:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:90: warning: pointer targets in passing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument 3 of ‘CFURLGetFileSystemRepresentation’ differ in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signedness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m: In function ‘setApplicationMenu’:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: no ‘-setAppleMenu:’ method found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: (Messages without a matching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method signature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: will be assumed to return ‘id’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cocoahelper.m:163: warning: ‘...’ as arguments.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gcc -dynamiclib -o cocoahelper.dylib cocoahelper.o -framework
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cocoa `sdl-config --libs`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /bin/sh: sdl-config: command not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Undefined symbols:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "_SDL_PushEvent", referenced from:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -[SDLApplication terminate:] in cocoahelper.o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ld: symbol(s) not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make: *** [cocoahelper.dylib] Error 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am now at a loss.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elliott Slaughter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elliott Slaughter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Elliott Slaughter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best way
>>>>>>>>> to predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Elliott Slaughter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best way to
>>>>>>> predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Elliott Slaughter
>>>>
>>>> "Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best way to
>>>> predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Elliott Slaughter
>>
>> "Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best way to
>> predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay
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