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and subject line Re: aptitude: %r usefulness limited, would need to take 
packages to be installed into account
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Package: aptitude
Version: 0.4.11-3+b1
Severity: wishlist

When a package to be installed automatically is shown with %r==0, one
easily tracks the issue to %r only counting *installed* packages, and
know that the info is not valid.  But when %r!=0, the info may easily
be mis-interpreted.

Shouldn't %r take into account packages to be installed/removed,
eg. by additionnaly displaying the numbers corresponding to the
requested state when they do not match ?

-- Package-specific info:
Terminal: screen
$DISPLAY is set.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (90, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.23.8-smp (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=french (charmap=ISO-8859-1)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages aptitude depends on:
ii  apt [libapt-pkg-libc6. 0.7.11            Advanced front-end for dpkg
ii  libc6                  2.7-6             GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libcwidget3            0.5.9-1           high-level terminal interface libr
ii  libept0                0.5.14            High-level library for managing De
ii  libgcc1                1:4.3.0-1         GCC support library
ii  libncursesw5           5.6+20080203-1    Shared libraries for terminal hand
ii  libsigc++-2.0-0c2a     2.0.18-2          type-safe Signal Framework for C++
ii  libstdc++6             4.3.0-1           The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libxapian15            1.0.5-1           Search engine library
ii  zlib1g                 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-11 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages aptitude recommends:
pn  aptitude-doc-en | aptitude-do <none>     (no description available)
ii  libparse-debianchangelog-perl 1.1.1-2    parse Debian changelogs and output

-- no debconf information



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tags 473594 + wontfix
tags 474256 + wontfix
stop


Hi,

2008-03-31 15:43 Yann Dirson:
Package: aptitude
Version: 0.4.11-3+b1
Severity: wishlist

When a package to be installed automatically is shown with %r==0, one
easily tracks the issue to %r only counting *installed* packages, and
know that the info is not valid.  But when %r!=0, the info may easily
be mis-interpreted.

Shouldn't %r take into account packages to be installed/removed,
eg. by additionnaly displaying the numbers corresponding to the
requested state when they do not match ?

The documentation says about %r: "Outputs the approximate number of
installed packages which depend upon the package", and I guess that
/approximate/ is for a reason, because the count depends on what people
consider worth counting.

See #320095 for some examples on how deciding what to count gets
complicated.  This request complicates it further by not only having
into account the current state of the system, but adding the extra layer
of pending actions.

So I don't think that we should change the current meaning of
"installed" and "approximate", or that people should rely on this number
for any meaningful purpose.

For more than a decade, this count was ignoring dependencies on virtual
packages provided by the current package (#320089), with only one person
realising and nobody seconding.  So I don't think that it's a very used
feature, and I to be honest I also cannot think of good reasons of why
would be used.


Cheers.
--
Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo <[email protected]>

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