+1, and even if some of the branches of the discussion are "twigs", we should indicate they're present and we're aware of them.
On 08/11/2014 02:19 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Wesley Eddy <[email protected]> wrote: >> This draft has been discussed a bit here and in TSVWG: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-welzl-ecn-benefits-01 >> >> As I understand, the IAB has also discussed it a bit, and would >> be happy if this was something that an IETF working group >> published. I believe the TSVWG chairs also discussed this and >> would be fine if the AQM working group adopted it. >> >> That said, there have only been a small number of mail list >> comments here about it, and we (unfortunately) didn't devote >> much of any meeting time to it in Toronto. >> >> So, *please* let us know your thoughts on this in the next few >> weeks. I believe we would try to complete it relatively quickly >> (e.g. 6 months) as an Informational RFC, assuming there is >> consensus and AD approval to add the milestone. >> >> I personally would like to see some stronger support for it from >> this working group in order to feel good about adopting it, though >> I think it is correct and may be "motherhood and apple pie" to >> many of us. > I don't share the relentless optimism of this document, and would > like it - or a competing document - to go into the potential negatives. > > examples of this include the TOS washing problem bob alluded to > in one of the tsvwg meetings (the monday one), the impact on > competing flows, the problem of unresponsive agents or other > misuse, the deprecation (?) of the nonce mechanism, and how to > properly switch between marking and dropping in an aqm. > > There are also the possibilities in new uses for ecn (for example, in > the original rmcat nada proposal), in usages on local links in routing > protocols, and in new protocols such as quic, etc. > >> -- >> Wes Eddy >> MTI Systems >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aqm mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/aqm > > -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest [email protected] | -- Mark Twain _______________________________________________ aqm mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/aqm
