On Nov 10, 2014, at 1:20 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> While I agree that the ECN benefits draft does not motivate any mechanism
> for ECN. I think the draft, should simply echo the BCP AQM Recommendation
> on ECN deployment:
> 
> "Deployed AQM algorithms SHOULD support Explicit Congestion Notification
> (ECN) as well as loss to signal congestion to endpoints." and refer to
> that BCP.

Dumb question for you.

Where I was a little concerned, and raised a question from the mike, was the 
statement that "AQM algorithms MAY describe their use with ECN”. My concern is 
for interoperability.

My sense with any AQM algorithm is the it should take signals (marks or drops) 
coming at a certain rate to manage a given TCP session or combination of TCP 
sessions to maximize throughput while minimizing latency. There is some 
question of the distribution of the signals; CUBIC will respond differently to 
having three successive packets dropped than having three packets dropped an 
RTT or two apart. I wonder whether what we really want is some kind of draft 
that describes the pattern and rate we want to achieve, including observations 
like Bob’s desire to have the mark threshold differ from the drop threshold. 
What is of value in the algorithm descriptions is how the algorithm should be 
parameterized to achieve that common goal, not different goals.

Am I making sense?

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