Greg, Good suggestion of keeping DOCSIS-PIE and PIE drafts consistent. Let's sync up and make sure they are consistent.
Thanks, Rong On 4/2/15 1:48 PM, "Greg White" <[email protected]> wrote: >Thanks for the review Dave. > >I double checked with Rong, and the exponential decay of drop probability >was inadvertently removed from the PIE pseudocode (I think she mentioned >this in the other thread as well). > >In terms of enable/disable, there are two aspects. One is that the >DOCSIS-PIE algorithm is enabled by default, but can be disabled via >explicit configuration by the network operator. The other is that the PIE >algorithm has a built-in concept of being ACTIVE vs INACTIVE. In the >pseudocode of the PIE draft these capitalized terms are used, but in the >description in section 5.1 of the PIE draft, this same functionality is >referred to as "Turning PIE on and off". Maybe this is an opportunity to >clean up the language in the PIE draft so it is more consistent. >DOCSIS-PIE supports the Active/Inactive aspect, but makes some adjustments >to the logic from what is included in the PIE pseudocode (and uses >different terminology). I'll add a section that describes the deltas >there and also I'll try to re-align the terminology in the DOCSIS-PIE >pseudocode so that it matches PIE. > >-Greg > > >On 4/1/15, 2:51 PM, "Dave Dolson" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>I'm also reviewing draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00 >>(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00) >> >>In section 3.4, an exponential delay aspect of PIE is mentioned. I just >>read https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-aqm-pie-00 and saw no mention >>of this exponential delay. Did I miss it, or is it a mistake for the >>docsis document to reference this? >> >> >>draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00 documents enabling and disabling of PIE >>control. Is enable/disable used with docsis-pie, or is it always on? >> >> >>Otherwise, the document seems to contain enough information to document >>docsis-pie. >>The algorithm in section A.2 has quite a few aspects that are not >>explained, but it seems precise. >>(I don't have the knowledge to comment on whether it is accurate.) >> >> >>-Dave >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Scheffenegger, Richard [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 5:53 PM >>To: Greg White; Mikael Abrahamsson; Dave Dolson; Szilveszter Nadas >>Cc: [email protected]; '[email protected]' >>Subject: RE: [aqm] adoption of draft-white-aqm-docsis-pie-01 >> >>Hi group, >> >>as there haven't been any objections, but some indications of support on >>the list, and based on the responses in the IETF92 meeting in Dallas, we >>chairs think this document can be adopted as WG-item at this time. >> >> >>Greg, can you please upload the most recent version as >>draft-ietf-aqm-docsis-pie-00? >> >>Also, as mentioned in the meeting, and to make true of my promise, I >>would like to invite the following individuals to review this draft, once >>the updated version becomes available. >> >>Mikael Abrahamsson >>Dave Dolson >>Szilveszter Nádas >> >>Mostly everybody else who has commented during the meeting is already >>assigned to other documents (Nobody will be left out :) >> >>Thanks, >> Richard (co-chair) >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: aqm [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scheffenegger, >>> Richard >>> Sent: Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 08:45 >>> To: Greg White; '[email protected]' >>> Cc: Rong Pan (ropan); [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [aqm] adoption of draft-white-aqm-docsis-pie-01 >>> >>> Hi Greg, group, >>> >>> >>> >>> Regarding the adoption call, this is something we can actually (and >>> should) start on the list. >>> >>> We can confirm that during the Dallas meeting in the room, but even >>>before >>> that, we'd like to get responses on the list now... >>> >>> Perhaps we have some volunteers to review this new version as well... >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Greg White [mailto:[email protected]] >>> > Sent: Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 01:13 >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Cc: Rong Pan (ropan) >>> > Subject: Re: [aqm] agenda for IETF 92 / Dallas >>> > >>> > Wes & Richard, >>> > >>> > Unfortunately I will not be at IETF92 in person, but will attend >>> remotely. >>> > For draft-white-aqm-docsis-pie, Rong & I updated it in January and >>> > included a new appendix to give a change log, which reads: >>> > >>> > =============== >>> > Appendix B. Change Log >>> > B.1. Since draft-white-aqm-docsis-pie-01 >>> > >>> > Added Change Log. >>> > >>> > Removed discussion of Packet drop de-randomization, Enhanced burst >>> > protection, and 16ms update interval, as these are now included in >>> > [I-D.ietf-aqm-pie]. >>> > >>> > =============== >>> > >>> > >>> > Regarding WG adoption, I saw some support from Lars (and no >>>objections) >>> to >>> > adopting it on an Informational track. Will you do an official >>> adoption >>> > call at the Dallas meeting? >>> > >>> > -Greg >>> > >>> > >>> > On 2/23/15, 8:40 PM, "Wesley Eddy" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > >Greetings AQMers! We requested a short AQM meeting slot at the >>> > >upcoming IETF 92 meeting in Dallas, and we received a 1-hour slot on >>> Tuesday: >>> > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/92/agenda.html >>> > > >>> > >Since this is not a lot of time, we'll need to prioritize the work >>> > >that is discussed to what requires the face-to-face time in order to >>> > >make progress on. >>> > > >>> > >For active draft editors, please let us know via this list or >>> > >[email protected] what you think your meeting time needs >>>are, >>> > >so we can put together an agenda. If you don't need meeting time >>> > >now, or would like to use an interim telecon to assist in gathering >>> > >feedback, please also let us know. >>> > > >>> > >For others, please read the drafts, comment on this mailing list, >>>and >>> > >help us to review and complete them: >>> > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/aqm/documents/ >>> > > >>> > >Thanks in advance! >>> > > >>> > >-- >>> > >Wes Eddy >>> > >MTI Systems >>> > > >>> > >_______________________________________________ >>> > >aqm mailing list >>> > >[email protected] >>> > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/aqm >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aqm mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/aqm > >_______________________________________________ >aqm mailing list >[email protected] >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/aqm _______________________________________________ aqm mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/aqm
