Dear Simon, 

> On 30 Jun 2015, at 01:31, Simon Barber <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Section 7.2 does not discuss testing of a very common scenario for network 
> edge devices - no congestion, and single flow. There are issues with some 
> AQMs reducing goodput in these scenarios, and there is a trade off between 
> the achievable latency and maximizing goodput here. The recommendation should 
> include testing of these common and potential problem regimes, In particular 
> long RTT and very low numbers of flows are of concern.
> 

In section 5.2, we have the following test: 

"
5.2.  Recommended tests

[ … ]

   o  To evaluate the impact of the RTT value on the AQM performance and
      the intra-protocol fairness (the fairness for the flows using the
      same paths/congestion control), for each run, two flows (Flow1 and
      Flow2) should be introduced.  For each experiment, the set of RTT
      SHOULD be the same for the two flows and in [5ms;560ms].
“

We have 2 flows to have the same load as in the “inter-RTT fairness” scenario
that is presented in the same section and this is not a “MUST” requirement. 
 
This scenario is somehow "very common” - no congestion - scenario.

We may reduce the number of flow to 1 for that specific scenario, but I am not 
quite
sure to understand the rationale of such change if the objective is to evaluate 
not debug an AQM.

> The current definition of mild congestion results in enough flows to not test 
> the problem areas.
> 

Indeed, this is why, in section 5.2, we propose a lower level of congestion 
than in the mild congestion scenario.

Kind regards,

Nicolas 

> Simon
> 
> 
> On 2015-06-29 05:03, [email protected] wrote:
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Active Queue Management and Packet
>> Scheduling Working Group of the IETF.
>> 
>>        Title           : AQM Characterization Guidelines
>>        Authors         : Nicolas Kuhn
>>                          Preethi Natarajan
>>                          Naeem Khademi
>>                          David Ros
>>      Filename        : draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines-05.txt
>>      Pages           : 35
>>      Date            : 2015-06-29
>> 
>> Abstract:
>>   Unmanaged large buffers in today's networks have given rise to a slew
>>   of performance issues.  These performance issues can be addressed by
>>   some form of Active Queue Management (AQM) mechanism, optionally in
>>   combination with a packet scheduling scheme such as fair queuing.
>>   The IETF Active Queue Management and Packet Scheduling working group
>>   was formed to standardize AQM schemes that are robust, easily
>>   implementable, and successfully deployable in today's networks.  This
>>   document describes various criteria for performing precautionary
>>   characterizations of AQM proposals.  This document also helps in
>>   ascertaining whether any given AQM proposal should be taken up for
>>   standardization by the AQM WG.
>> 
>> 
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines/
>> 
>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines-05
>> 
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-aqm-eval-guidelines-05
>> 
>> 
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