Just wanted to add a quick data point.  I am interested in the
possibilities of using AQM at endpoints.  Not sure how this jibes with
the goals of the working group, but, if anyone is interested I would
like to keep the endpoints in the conversation.

thanxs ;^)
...Daniel

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Dave Täht <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On 2/26/16 2:04 PM, Wesley Eddy wrote:
>> Hi, I'm now sorry that we didn't schedule an AQM meeting slot in Buenos
>> Aires.  We can certainly pre-load an agenda for Berlin with these topics
>> though.  That is a long way in the future, however, so please use the
>> mailing list to discuss tests and metrics, share results, advertise
>> papers, etc, in the meantime on these topics!
>
> I plan to make the Berlin meeting. Whether I/we'll have anything to talk
> about is still up in the air... "cake" has been 98% done for a while,
> and there has been some nice progress lately on beginning to apply these
> techniques to wifi in the linux kernel stack, but much work remains.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/26/2016 6:23 AM, De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE) wrote:
>>> Hi Wes,
>>>
>>> Just to let you know that we are still working on AQMs that support
>>> scalable (L4S) TCPs.
>>> We could present some of our latest results (if there will be a
>>> meeting in Buenos Aires, otherwise in Berlin?)
>>>
>>> * Performance of HTTP Adaptive Video Streaming (HAS) with different
>>> TCP's and AQMs
>>>     o HAS is currently ~30% of Internet traffic, but no AQM testing so
>>> far has included it
>>>     o the results are very poor with a particular popular AQM
>>> Presenter: Inton Tsang
>>> Duration: 10mins
>>> Draft: Comparative testing of draft-ietf-aqm-pie-01,
>>> draft-ietf-aqm-fq-codel-04, draft-briscoe-aqm-dualq-coupled
>>>
>>> For experiment write-up, see Section 3 of
>>> https://riteproject.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/rite-deliverable-3-3-public1.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> * PI^2: PI simplified with a square
>>>     o PIE embeds some auto-tuning and heuristics, which can be removed
>>> by simple transformation of a variable
>>>     o Allows PIE to control also scalable congestion controls (DCTCP,
>>> ...)
>>> Presenter: Koen De Schepper
>>> Duration: 15mins
>>> Draft: (probably impacted)  draft-ietf-aqm-pie
>>>
>>> * DualQ update
>>>     o extensive additional tests, including different RTTs and mixed
>>> RTTs, better visualization
>>>     o using other AQMs than Curvy-RED for 'Classic' traffic, e.g. PI^2
>>> Presenter: Koen De Schepper
>>> Duration: 20min
>>> Draft: draft-briscoe-aqm-dualq-coupled-01
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Koen.
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: aqm [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Wesley Eddy
>>>> Sent: woensdag 10 februari 2016 20:27
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [aqm] AQM plans
>>>>
>>>> Hello AQMers, this is just a quick note to be clear on working group
>>>> status and forward planning.
>>>>
>>>> Currently, all of the active drafts are either in WGLC, or in the
>>>> process of shepherd writeups to go the the AD.
>>>>
>>>> Once we get the current set of drafts out for publication, there are a
>>>> few things the WG can do:
>>>> - close down
>>>> - remain open to continue coordinating and advance algorithms (e.g.
>>>> within the standards track)
>>>> - remain open as a venue for potential new work (e.g. the DualQ Coupled
>>>> AQM)
>>>>
>>>> I think we should discuss this and plan to make a decision after the
>>>> IETF 96 meeting in Berlin (July 17-22).  We can have a "closing or
>>>> re-chartering" meeting in Berlin if it will benefit from face-to-face
>>>> discussion.
>>>>
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