arachne-digest Sunday, January 12 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2015
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:33:05 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Keeping track of the news [was Re: UT (extreme:): the US and the human rights On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:36:03 -0000, John Sparks wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:41 AM > Subject: Re: Keeping track of the news [was Re: UT (extreme:): the US and > the human rights > <snip> >> There are no civilized countries where the citizens are not allowed >> to own guns. > <snip> > My dictionary defines civilize as "... get rid of barbarous habits..." > Whilst I do not want to make any claims as to which country is or is not > civilised, the only way I can see that owning guns might get rid of > barbarous habits is by the citizens acting as an armed police force. Ordinary citizens should not act as a though they were an armed police force. Such behavior is rightfully condemned as vigilantism. It is illegal for them to take the law into their own hands. They do however have the right to defend themselves from violent assaults and to use whatever force as may be necessary to protect themselves in such a situation. Criminals prefer to perpetrate their violent assaults in states and communities where the citizens are not allowed to go about armed. Statistics show that there is less crime in states and cities which have less restrictive gun laws to infringe on the rights of the law-abiding. > That > would only be necessary to control potentially bad citizens. Unfortunately > they would also have guns! > Perhaps the only truly civilised society would be one where everyone was > allowed to own weapons but no-one wanted to take up the option. Of course! Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:40:09 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: So, while I'm here... On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:07:44 -0000, Matt, Nic and Wilf wrote: > Arachne supports animated GIFs, right? > So why don't the ones on this site work- > www.ahumanbeing.co.uk > ? > I can see that they're unusually large (the site's author uses them as an > artform). But does anyone know why they appear static and grainy in Arachne > whilst certain other browsers cope okay? > The site contains many links to pages that consist entirely of large > animated gifs (when I say "large" I mean a few tens to a few hundred K). > Arachne won't > even look at these even if I allow it 4MB for them. Arachne is configured > with all the XMS memory and disk cache it could possibly want on this system > and also has 70+ K free conventional memory... > TIA > Matt Arachne does not have the capability of using enough memory for such HUGE resizing of animated GIFs aaaaa.gif is actually 100x100 but is being resized to 600x10000 <img src="LuckyDip/otherpics4journey/aaaaa.gif" width="600" height="10000"> button19.gif is actually 20x20 but is being resized to 600x2000 <img src="LuckyDip/moreanigifs/button19.gif" width="600" height="2000"> RightClick (or Shft+enter), on the image itself to see it without resizing. - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:45:44 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: So, while I'm here... I went to the site -- having to enter the URL by hand using F3 because the reference didn't contain the "http://"; which would have made it an active link. I saw a number of ani-GIFs, but none of them were the author/artist's "work" ... all the work I found on the pages -- and I visited quite a few -- was static. Only the headers on the various pages were ani-GIFs and the narrative on the pages didn't indicate that the art work itself was anything other than photographs of "hard copy" art Justin has done in the last 20 years. So after writing the above, and thinking a bit more, I went back ... and discovered that the problem lies not within Arachne but within the page design [on the basic URL at least]. It is very difficult to render a small GIF -- ani- or otherwise -- when you make the darned thing "width 600" in the table design of the page. It may render correctly on browsers which use JS -- because of the style setup, etc. -- but it is flawed HTML to begin with. If you want to verify that Arachne can see the ani-GIFs and render them correctly, go to the page and scroll down to that 'grainy blob' area and do Right Click to isolate that particular graphic; you'll see it displayed on its own page in its proper size. l.d. ==== On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:07:44 -0000, Matt, Nic and Wilf wrote: > Arachne supports animated GIFs, right? > So why don't the ones on this site work- > www.ahumanbeing.co.uk > ? > I can see that they're unusually large (the site's author uses them as an > artform). But does anyone know why they appear static and grainy in Arachne > whilst certain other browsers cope okay? > The site contains many links to pages that consist entirely of large > animated gifs (when I say "large" I mean a few tens to a few hundred K). > Arachne won't > even look at these even if I allow it 4MB for them. Arachne is configured > with all the XMS memory and disk cache it could possibly want on this system > and also has 70+ K free conventional memory... > TIA > Matt - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:23:43 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Keeping track of the news [was Re: UT (extreme:): the US and the human rights On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:36:03 -0000, John Sparks wrote: <snip> > Perhaps the only truly civilised society would be one where everyone was > allowed to own weapons but no-one wanted to take up the option. No ... because fear and hidden agendas could be the reason for persons to not "take up the option." Rather, the only truly civilised society would be one where everyone was allowed to, and did, own weapons ... but they had no use other than for sporting events and competitions. I "live in a free country"; that country passed a law which made my 80 year old mother a felon -- because she still had the semi-automatic .22 cal rifle I used to hunt rabbits to feed us many years ago, and it was capable of holding more than 20 rounds of ".22 shorts." I "live in a free country" where a man insane on crystal and hunting for an "enemy" decided to hunt in MY home ... and his attempts to kick in my metal sheathed front door twisted the tongue on the latch so badly we were almost unable to open it after he left. [We slept with a couch in front of the door that night, because we dared not attempt to latch the door back up, and repairs weren't possible until the next day.] At the time, my rifle was in one place, the bolt in a second, and the ammo in a third; a 50+ disabled veteran armed with a cane, and a 17 yo boy with a short bo, would not have survived if the berserker had made it through the door and decided to vent his insanity upon us. I "live in a free country" where acts of, or confessions to, child molestation are protected from "the law" because a church is involved. I "live in a free country" where I must perjure myself as a witness in order for the jury to believe me. [I am not Christian, swearing an oath on The Bible is meaningless to me, but if I "aver" to tell the truth then I suddenly become an untrustworthy weirdo.] I "live in a free country" where I'm allowed to yell FIRE!! in a crowded theater, if there is a fire ... but people don't run because they have decided that they don't want to believe a fire could possible "happen here." Freedom isn't about guns, it's about the NEED for guns. Freedom isn't about politics, it's having the power to control politicians. Freedom isn't about free speech, it's about being able to speak so that others can hear and understand. Democracy -- to paraphrase Sir Winston Churchil -- is a crappy form of government, but so far it's the best one out there. ==== -- If a country is to remain free its citizens must defy unjust laws. The new "anti-terrorism" laws abridge the rights of us all. It is time to keep the snoopers busy; how about a little Carnivore confusion "noise": Allah be PGP arms Anthrax cropduster funds transfer customs Mecca infidel jihad Bush EOT - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:25:36 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Stll no unsubscribe[Fwd: Majordomo results] On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:25:34 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: <snip> > Perhaps those who wish to unsubscribe read and comment once > in a while in the vain hope that somehow, someone will be able to > find the key to the exit door. Sorry Michael, But I must agree with the view-point that it is way past time to fix this.... >>>> unsubscribe arachne >>> Sorry, an error has occurred while processing your request >>> The caretaker of Majordomo ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) has been notified >>> of the problem. - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:38:37 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Keeping track of the news [was Re: UT (extreme:): the US and the human rights On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:23:43 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: <snip> Thank you very much...... it is now part of my new sign.txt - -- If a country is to remain free its citizens must defy unjust laws. The new "anti-terrorism" laws abridge the rights of us all. It is time to keep the snoopers busy; how about a little Carnivore confusion "noise": Allah be PGP arms Anthrax cropduster funds transfer customs Mecca infidel jihad Bush EOT Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 06:45:10 +0000 From: "Laurie L Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: WWWMAN bug On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 00:43:41 -0500, you wrote: > Please, > Everyone with the W9x 'your computer' lockup problem grab the > fixed version of wwwman.exe and run it through the paces. > http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/wwwman.htm Glenn Hi Glenn, I've updated wwman.exe and confirm that this machine booted to straight DOS, no longer suffers from the "Your Computer" . However checking everything else out QuickView now won't play my test MP3 file, don't know if this is related. Error: MP3 file damaged or unsuported format One duff file is insufficient evidence.....BRB luckely I've found another MP3 file attachned to an email, and that plays fine in QV so Maybe the file has gone bad. QV is working OK after the "Your computer" fix. Many thank's for the fix to wwwman.exe Regards Laurie - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 06:35:14 +0000 From: "Laurie L Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: http://users.breathemail.net/g4rio/ On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:23:33 -0500, you wrote: Hi Sam, > One Arachne idosyncratic behavior is shown here however. Selecting one > of the links from the left hand frame, it loads ok but does not display. > Instead you get the main frame displayed over again. > Then clicking on the link a second time will get it to display > in place of the main frame. > I've noticed this Arachne behavior with frames on most other sites. > I have to click twice to get something displayed. > Has the handling of frames been improved with 1.71UE? > Sam Ewalt > Croswell, Michigan, USA I noticed the same thing, downloads the link but does not display until you click a second time. I'm using 1.71UE01 Regards Laurie - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 04:17:56 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Keeping track of the news [was Re: UT (extreme:): the US and the human rights On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:38:37 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:23:43 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > <snip> > Thank you very much...... it is now part of my new sign.txt > -- > If a country is to remain free its citizens must defy unjust laws. The new > "anti-terrorism" laws abridge the rights of us all. It is time to keep the > snoopers busy; how about a little Carnivore confusion "noise": Allah be PGP > arms Anthrax cropduster funds transfer customs Mecca infidel jihad Bush EOT > Glenn > http://arachne.cz/ > http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ > http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm > http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/ That is not confusion. Carnivore can easily recognize it as being just dummy traffic. If you want to succeed at producing some real confusion for Carnivore you should send a sig that looks something like this, but don't send the same sig more than once: - -- PRIORITY GQITM MSG NUM DYJ PROWORD CABAL GROUPS 23 SITTR GPUMX EPNTB YEPNT YQLNM QYNKY HROPR PQMAO MWVPO SGTPQ YTPVM PYBNQ QOPXY WCAPM OEOPM PQVID QOMMT GYIIP PXUTR HYLLP HYKMK WUXXX XXXXX I AUTHENTICATE TK - -- It is impossible for Carnivore to determine whether something like the above is just a random garbage transmission or whether it is a message carrying information or instructions. You cannot analyze it. Maybe it is just garbage. Maybe it is a message containing information and instructions, and maybe there is someone reading this message and to whom I have securely transmitted a one-time pad by which it can be easily decrypted. The only thing I can feel reasonably sure of is that neither you nor Carnivore knows whether the above is just dummy traffic. Even if I were to say that it is just dummy traffic, how would you or Carnivore know for certain that I am telling the truth? Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:42:30 +0100 From: Bart Buitinga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Keeping track of the news [was Re: UT (extreme:): the US and the human rights How much difference one man can make in American politics has been wonderfully demonstrated by gov Ryan, who is first to break the myth that the American justice system would be infallible. I sure hope this will reach Tx, too. And before a next war starts, because quite similar to the undeserved faith of many Americans in the deterrant effect of capital punishment, their call for the "war on terrorism" is of the same category, ill-based categorical measures with doubtful effect and a high level of cruelty. You may call me a communist if you like (although I prefer "socialist"), but surely this last day decision in Illinois is just a first step back from the point where civilisation ends and vengeance takes over mass sentiments, leaving America itself in the role of murderous oppressor of those going any other than the American way. (Don't get me wrong, just picture the USA as a Microsoft amongst nations, and then try independence for an attitude. Even the North Coreans start making sense if you do.) B At 16:33 11-1-03 -0500, you wrote: >On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:36:03 -0000, John Sparks wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:41 AM >> Subject: Re: Keeping track of the news [was Re: UT (extreme:): the US and >> the human rights > >> <snip> >>> There are no civilized countries where the citizens are not allowed >>> to own guns. >> <snip> >> My dictionary defines civilize as "... get rid of barbarous habits..." >> Whilst I do not want to make any claims as to which country is or is not >> civilised, the only way I can see that owning guns might get rid of >> barbarous habits is by the citizens acting as an armed police force. > >Ordinary citizens should not act as a though they were an armed >police force. Such behavior is rightfully condemned as vigilantism. >It is illegal for them to take the law into their own hands. They do >however have the right to defend themselves from violent assaults and >to use whatever force as may be necessary to protect themselves in such >a situation. Criminals prefer to perpetrate their violent assaults in >states and communities where the citizens are not allowed to go about >armed. Statistics show that there is less crime in states and cities >which have less restrictive gun laws to infringe on the rights of the >law-abiding. > >> That >> would only be necessary to control potentially bad citizens. Unfortunately >> they would also have guns! > >> Perhaps the only truly civilised society would be one where everyone was >> allowed to own weapons but no-one wanted to take up the option. > >Of course! > >Sam Heywood >-- >This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: >http://browser.arachne.cz/ > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:42:32 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA Hi Samuel! 11 Jan 2003, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [dhs] >> And nobody cares !!! SH> The so-called Big Brother department was created in order to SH> consolidate the functions of several intelligence and law enforcement SH> agencies into one big super-agency. Yes ... but it has also much more rights than before. And this rights can be abused. (-> big brother) Let's hope that this will not happen too much ... SH> Nobody cares because anything done for the mere purpose of improving SH> efficiency in government will save the taxpayers some money. I doubt that it will cost less, and I doubt that it will not limit freedom of americans. We will see how much it costed, after the next american budget. (I'm really, really sure that it will be much more) >> Back to big brother >> First move from M$ was to designate Thomas Richey as M$ director for >> homeland security ... who waits now that W buys software for huge >> amounts of $$ from M$ SH> What did Micro$oft have to do with getting Thomas Richey a job? SH> I don't even know who Thomas Richey is. I thought Tom Ridge was the SH> director of Homeland Security. sorry ... I did not make myself clear. M$ has nothing to do with dhs. But the first move of M$ was to designate a director at M$ who is director for homeland security. And they wnat to make big $$$ with it. Anyways that's their right ... just wanted to tell you that much of your taxes could go to M$ for the pruduction of technology which will be used to limit the freedom of americans. SH> The reason why government and most big corporations use Micro$oft SH> operating $ystem$ and $oftware is that the schools, colleges, and SH> other educational institutions in the US don't offer many courses on SH> alternative operating systems and software. sad ... but this is not only an american problem. M$ software is largly used in the whole world, and many people get used to it. But the situation gets less severe when higher postitions are though of. For example in my university I have seldom met windows ... but used many types of commercial (aix, hpux, etc) and free (linux, bsd) Unixes. SH> The teaching staff will officially discourage the students from SH> becoming very interested in alternative operating systems because they SH> say that area employers seeking to hire people for computer-related SH> jobs are looking only for people who know how to do Micro$oft stuff. SH> Unfortunately this is mostly true. But very shortsighted. People who know the basic ideas, can use any software. People who know only how sw x works, know nothing if they have to upgrade to another version, or even another program. >> And another highly sick part is the `Cyber Security Enhancement Act' >> (CSEA) a law that IMO clearly violates international Law, and UN >> law. SH> I have never heard of the "Cyber Security Enhancement Act". If it SH> were something so highly controversial, why don't they talk about it SH> in the news? They haven't talked about other controversial issues :) But this one is not so controversial for americans. And I haven't heared/read about it much. Basically it says that american courts can judge about non americans, who have nothing to do with america, and haven't ever been, there, nor commited a crime there. SH> The average citizen cannot keep up with every piece of new legislation SH> that comes around. IMHO this act is not that important that it is a must report for media. If there will be a case than IMHO it could get important ... but until than it is no big problem not to report about it. SH> The citizen trusts the news media to report on all the significant SH> bills. Like in all other countries. SH> I have recently learned from you that the news media is failing us in SH> this regard. IMHO it could be that some journalists do misunderstand the word patriotism (a word which is often used in america ... and IMHO not so often completely understood) Anyways not writing about *that* act is no big problem. SH> Sam Heywood CU, Ricsi - -- |~)o _ _o Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP) |~\|(__\| -=> Most allies must be watched just like the enemy <=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:00:26 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: UT (extreme:): the US and the human rights Hi Samuel! 11 Jan 2003, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> They remind me of russian communist TV ... the only difference is >> that in former Russia Journalist were killed if they did not say >> what the government wanted them to say, in CNN they shut their mouth >> up by their own. SH> In the US if a news reporter does not say what the network wants him SH> to say the network will just fire him. Then he can get an SH> equally well-paying job from another network which has a bias which is SH> more amenable to the reporter's own leanings and opinions. sure ... my point was extermely strong ... :) I just wanted to make people think :))) >> I never in my life have seen such a biased journalism in my life ... >> never ever ! >> SH> I regard the views aired on all of these news networks as being >> SH> very critical. >> Joking again ?? SH> No, I am not joking. They are indeed very critical about what is SH> going on in those areas which they choose to report about. The SH> problem is that they are neglecting to report on some events which SH> many news program viewers regard as highly significant. this is propably the case controversial reports on some issues, and ignoring others. >> Sometimes (sorry in advance) americans seem like cattle which >> blindly follow W to the butcher, without nowing where they are >> going, and what consequences this will have. >> Sorry again ... this is only meant as a wakeup call ... SH> Americans are not blindly following him. If you would visit the SH> newsgroups devoted to political discussions you will find that there SH> are many Americans who are severely criticising GW Bush. But there is no real oppostition against him ... even if he does controversial things. Anyways ... another big surprise for me: Bush administration handles Korea conflict 100 times better than I would have thought possible. SH> Sam Heywood CU, Ricsi - -- |~)o _ _o Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP) |~\|(__\| -=> Looking for Love? - Adopt a pet! <=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:13:34 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA Hi Sam! 11 Jan 2003, "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Bush invented the Department of homeland security (also known as >> "Big Brother") 170000 people working there, budget of over 35 >> billion $/year !!!!!! SE> Homeland Security is a new bureaucratic catch all that reassigns many SE> existing departments and governmental bureaus to a new dept and gives SE> them all a new focus. I know ... but many people (including me) fear that it is used to cut freedom of citizens more, and to use it to increase their $$$. (so that dhs gets more money at the end, than the single organizations got before) anyways ... we will see. And things tend to look worse at the beginning than that they really are at the end. (I hope you understand this grammatically wrong sentence) >> Boy ... I can't say how happy I am that I had the luck of not being >> born in the US ! SE> Perhaps this is easier for your conscience. I'm proud to be an SE> American, proud of our American democratic ideals and proud of many SE> things that Americans have accomplished in the world, Sure ... I apologize for having written that. SE> including helping to rebuild Austria with the Marshall Plan after SE> World War II. and this was a really great help. But it was also a great help for america :) But it took many intelligent persons to realize this. And I'm very glad that they were all there. Both very much helped the opther ones economy. But for austria there's a another (IMO even bigger help) as the USA allowed Austria to become a free country. This was a really courageous move, and I don't know if I would have allowed it if I would have been america. This together with the support of east berlin was very, very important. SE> I think there is another current in America besides the fear and SE> insecurity provoked by the terrible events of 9-11. A current that SE> has deep respect for freedom and the Bill of Rights. I think this SE> current will reassert itself. I hope so ... But the trend to limit freedom of citizens is not only an american problem. We (all) have to fight against it. SE> Sam Ewalt CU, Ricsi - -- |~)o _ _o Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP) |~\|(__\| -=> I Wonder What The Big Red Button Does...? <=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:39:25 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: UT (extreme:): the US and the human rights Hi Sam! 11 Jan 2003, "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SE> Bush did manage to graduate from Yale and later got a MBA from SE> Harvard, so he may not be as stupid as he seems at times. SE> He's obvously dsylexic and struggles with word order and formation SE> when he ad libs--but he's not stupid. I think you are right that his dyslexia makes him sound more uninetligent than he really is. But than on the other hand he has extremely simple and naiv views. good, bad etc. Reality is not black or white, but gray. Things are not simple, but complex, and this CANNOT be ignored. And severe consequences will result if he goes on ignoring it. And the world has changed as well ... now the UN can do much good ... But we all have to change as well. In former times the US has done much good by "giving balance to the force" (also some bad also resulted from it) but now there's an organization which stands above any single country. But IMHO it is very hard for america, because it was allways isolated. (I mean they were strong enough to easily live without the rest of the world) so they "did their thing" and did not really "care" how things are abroad. America has to get a global view. America cannot do whatever is best for it, if it severly hits the rest of the world (kyoto, oil etc.) America has to respect that *ALL* humans (including non americans) have rights. The rest of the world has to do more to support peacekeeping missions. Too often (especially in europe) have we relied on the strength of america ... if anything goes wrong, cry for help, and America will come. IMHO the real differences between america and europe (and the most of the rest of the world) are small, and relatively easily can be overcome. SE> Also he's an idealist, doing his level best to defend the United SE> States against a very real threat and danger. I truely believe that he believes this. But this is a completely new kind of danger ... and the measures he takes are IMO not appropriate. They will only severly limit the freedom of americans, but not seriously hinder terrorists. And Sam (the other one) wrote a quote which is EXTREMELY right: "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." exactly this is the path were current politics will lead to ... and that scares me. SE> But he's not seeing the whole picture accurately. Not seeing the whole SE> picture accurately is the great, naive failure of Americans. And I say SE> that as a patriotic American who wants his country to live up to its SE> ideals. I couldn't agree more. And IMHO everybody wants america to prosper. America is a big and very important country. The only difference is how to achieve this. And IMO W goes exactly the wrong direction. Ignoring the causes of things, and even enhancing isolation. SE> The burden of American economic might and military power is SE> troublesome. It would be easier to be Canadian or Austrian or SE> Finnish and not be expected to act on the world stage. I 100% agree. But as there is a multilateral organization america can free itself of some of the burden, while still holding extreme power in its hands. But it would no longer be able to do illegal (assasinate people etc.) actions. But it would also be able to cut the costs, and to have most of the world on its side. (this would tremendously make the life of terrorists harder, because they would loose most of the support they may even yet get) SE> Yet if North Korea or Iraq built an atom bomb and either used it to SE> blackmail Europe or Japan or Austrailia or sold it to terrorists who SE> want to blow up Jakarta the world would demand to know how come we SE> didn't do something about it. This has to change. The "world" has to do it themselves, and not rely that america does it. (Anyways America will be a big part of the "world") But it is "not good" (TM;) if america doesn't share its information, only to support their views. Eg. america wants war, but doesn't share information about the iraqi nuclear program. W often said that he has important information about it, but the UN nuclear organization (here in vienna :) has still not received it. America has to stop to do "its thing" and take an even stronger part in multilateral organizations. SE> I'm not saying that America should invade anyone. But, we do SE> have legitimate concerns that the world expects us to do something SE> about because nobody else can. I agree that this is the case. But IMO it is more desirable to have an international "army" under a multilateral command (with a very strong american aspect) More desireable for both sides at the end. SE> America needs to grow up, learn more about the world and get SE> smarter about how to handle the responsibilities that our global SE> strength imposes on us. I wholeheartedly agree ... But the rest of the world has to change, too. We have to think more globally, and we have to emancipate ourself. SE> Sam Ewalt CU, Ricsi PS: apropos Korea (I know ... but I mix up which one is south and which one is west :) - -- |~)o _ _o Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP) |~\|(__\| -=> Money makes the world go around <=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:07:23 +00 From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: HTML Programming Hi Laurie, I already downloaded this one... and I am not impressed. Not impressed for use as a learn tool for HTML. I learned a lot more from the 'examples' in Arachne = arachne\examples\*.* plus the help of a simple booklet from the towns librairy. CU, Bastiaan On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:45:58 +0000, Laurie L Proud wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 01:20:55 +00, you wrote: >>> "HTML Editor for Arachne" >>> Copyright 1999 Vitex Software - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Version 0.9 Beta ......Unfinished Beta version :-( >> Can this HTML Editor downloaded somewhere... this an email address. >> Regards, Bastiaan > Hi Bastiaan, > If you missed it first time round, the HTML Editors are available > as Arachne APM's here > http://browser.arachne.cz/dos > The "HTML Editor for Arachne" you were looking for is 3/4 of the way > down the page in the unfinished Beta section. > The link from memory might be: > http://browser.arachne.cz/apm/htmt0922.apm >>> It's a shame this Editor is still a Beta, it look's virtually >>> finished, reminds me of Edit. Provided it's stable and hasen't >>> any bugs it looks very useful. > Regards Laurie > -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #2015 ******************************
