arachne-digest Friday, March 7 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2068
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:08:47 +0000 From: "Carol Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Recharging old laptop batteries I will file the information on shocking batteries, but it might not be necessary. Sometimes cleaning the contacts with electronic cleaner from the auto supply is all they need. - -- This mail was written by Carol A. Moon - -- Too soon old, too late smart. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:15:54 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Suggestion On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:28:22 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > I don't know of any way anybody might go about trying to prove or > disprove your opinion. The spam business and chain letter > business is so underground and clandestine. How many people would > openly admit to making or losing money in an illegal business? I > don't know of any way we can conduct any competent research to > investigate the profitability of this kind of business. In the I was once quite interested in "mail order opportunities" and investigated chain letters and other schemes as thouroughly as I could. I responded to ads, sent away for materials, tracked mailings with code letters and so forth. I plowed through tons of mail order offers. It became fairly obvious to me that the only money was being made by businesses that sold mailing lists, printing services or "how-to" books that advised other people how to get rich. The same offers and schemes circulated endlessly with variations just like the email spammers. This leads me to believe that the mechanisms are very much alike. Greedy, lazy people who want to "get rich quick" are easy to con, much easier than the general public who rightly think that things like the "Nigerian general scam" are ridiculous. It would be much easier to sell "how to make a fortune with email CD's". That's the kind of stuff that sells. - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:11:34 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fw: Hello (is the general's son traceable this time ?) SMTP forging is normal for spam. Forging a well known domain "adds respectibility." Unless and until you get a message from the commercial cabal / general's son / dictator's widow / presidential fund raiser which gives you an e-mail address (not web-mail, but e-mail) to respond to, you aren't likely to have much chance of chasing down the con artists. Best advice: Use a mail reader where it is easy to "delete without reading." ==== On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:50:28 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Received again from the general's son but invoking a prestigious realm ex. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mohammed Abacha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:15 AM > Subject: Hello. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Could it SMTP be forged ? <snip> - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:28:02 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fw: Hello (is the general's son traceable this time ?) On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:11:34 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > SMTP forging is normal for spam. > Forging a well known domain "adds respectibility." > Unless and until you get a message from the commercial cabal / general's > son / dictator's widow / presidential fund raiser which gives you an > e-mail address (not web-mail, but e-mail) to respond to, you aren't > likely to have much chance of chasing down the con artists. > Best advice: Use a mail reader where it is easy to "delete without > reading." Now I just wonder which mail reader she might be refering to.<g> hint, hint... http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ > ==== > On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:50:28 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Received again from the general's son but invoking a prestigious realm ex. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mohammed Abacha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:15 AM >> Subject: Hello. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Could it SMTP be forged ? > <snip> > -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:18:25 -0500 (EST) From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fw: Hello (is the general's son traceable this time ?) On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Received again from the general's son but invoking a prestigious realm ex. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mohammed Abacha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:15 AM > Subject: Hello. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Could it SMTP be forged ? Since you didn't forward the headers, how would anyone be able to tell? > I wonder if this kind of spam would be easily traceable as he/she has an > email account used as "screen name" that would belong to a prestigious > domain Yes, it's generally quite easily traceable... often to an open relay somewhere... often to a Nigerian ISP. > Does the "son" would have a dialup account with any of the above ? Dunno. You didn't send the headers. - -- Steve Ackman http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?) http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:19:01 -0500 (EST) From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RESEND: binary kermit downloads... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:43:29 -0500 (EST) From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: binary kermit downloads... On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, ANDY wrote: > I am trying to download a binary file using kermit from a unix server > while logged into it in a shell session via telnet... I've never heard of that. Kermit, AFAIK, is a protocol for downloading over a dialup connection. > I am using a win3.11 telnet client(QVT/Term) to shell into my ISP's unix > server... so far so good until now where/when I want to download/upload a > binary file... > > In my telnet client(QVT/Term) I can go into Kermit Transfer Mode with a > "test" or "binary" option along a "directory" entry box(which default is > my directory where my telnet client(QVT/Term) is on *my*(Win3.11) machine), > a "file" entry box, a "bytes" entry box and a "message" entry box as well > as a "disconnect" or "Shutdown" option... how are these options used in a > zmodem/xmodem/ymodem unix telnet upload/download session?? As a rule, z, y, and xmodem are also protocols for file transfer over a dialup connection. However, I am aware of at least one client that can do x,y,zmodem over telnet. It's called ztelnet, and is for 'nix machines. > my question is this: how do I download using this Kermit from my ISP's > unix server which I only know uses sx, sz and sy proto's/commands?? Kermit is a totally unrelated to sz. sz/rz do zmodem, ymodem and xmodem transfers only. > do I type sz -b at the unix prompt? then go into kermit transfer mode and > wait? are zmodem, xmodem, ymodem compatible or can they be made compatible > with kermit transfer mode?? sz is able to send via x/y/zmodem. It is not able to send Kermit. Once sz is sending, your client must be able to invoke its own "rz" equivalent, which will save the file where you want it. Over dialup, I always used Telix for doing kermit/x/y/z, but once Delphi went telnet access only, kermit ability went by the wayside, and I had only the option of ztelnet for downloading binaries from there. You could read the thread where this was discussed a few months ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00898.html The pertinent part (by Howard) is this: "Zmodem-over-telnet is possible in DOS if you use a comm program that supports int14 or fossil on top of tcpport or rlfossil, but uploads may be a problem. I would recommend ftp for DOS if at all possible." That pretty much sums it up. x/y/zmodem and Kermit are all transfer/error correction protocols designed in the era of dialup. While it's *possible* to use them over tcp/ip, software to do so is rare. - -- Steve Ackman http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?) http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff) ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 21:45:21 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: Hello (is the general's son traceable this time ?) My 2cents worth. ;-) http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=www.newskies.net&SearchType=do Chances are that he sender of the spam is not subscriber at that domain. But rather that the SMTP server there is an 'open relay'. On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:15:20 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:11 PM > Related posting of today: > from L.D. >> SMTP forging is normal for spam. >> Forging a well known domain "adds respectibility." > from Steve: >> Yes, it's generally quite easily traceable... often to an >> open relay somewhere... often to a Nigerian ISP. > my former question: >> > Does the "son" would have a dialup account with any of the above ? >> Dunno. You didn't send the headers > Sorry I forgot to quote headers: > I supposed that everybody body in the list would receive it ! > It was send thorough Arachne. > Isn't it ? > *************** > X-Track: 1: 100 > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: from 212.24.129.58 (EHLO ns.arachne.cz) (212.24.129.58) > by mta530.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Mar 2003 03:39:11 -0800 (PST) > Received: from okey61083.com (63-109-249-173.reverse.newskies.net > [63.109.249.173]) > by ns.arachne.cz (8.12.8/8.12.6) with SMTP id h25BFhmk002940 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:15:45 +0100 > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: "Mohammed Abacha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:15:43 +0100 > ******* > I did some basic WHOIS search. > "from okey61083.com (63-109-249-173.reverse.newskies.net [63.109.249.173])" > To be sincere I won't doubt inmediately of something being ( or resembling ) > a NL domain ! (the full qualified domain, not the canonical name CNAME) > Should I report to he above message code ? to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I think about that if it can be something naive as as I got trapped myself > here against my will ! > I never got any results at all when unsubscribing ! > Just a bit of fun ! > Elliot - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:47:16 -0500 (EST) From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: Hello (is the general's son traceable this time ?) On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry I forgot to quote headers: > I supposed that everybody body in the list would receive it ! > It was send thorough Arachne. > Isn't it ? Probably. I may not have seen it if procmail and/or SpamAssassin recognized it for what it is and sent it to /dev/null. newskies.net does sound familiar though, so I may have seen it in the spam file and either reported and deleted, or simply deleted... depends on what kind of mood I was in. > *************** > > X-Track: 1: 100 > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: from 212.24.129.58 (EHLO ns.arachne.cz) (212.24.129.58) > by mta530.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Mar 2003 03:39:11 -0800 (PST) > Received: from okey61083.com (63-109-249-173.reverse.newskies.net > [63.109.249.173]) > by ns.arachne.cz (8.12.8/8.12.6) with SMTP id h25BFhmk002940 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:15:45 +0100 > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: "Mohammed Abacha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:15:43 +0100 > > ******* > > I did some basic WHOIS search. > > "from okey61083.com (63-109-249-173.reverse.newskies.net [63.109.249.173])" > > To be sincere I won't doubt inmediately of something being ( or resembling ) > a NL domain ! (the full qualified domain, not the canonical name CNAME) First, the part outside the [square brackets] can easily be forged. I check to see if it is: - ----- $ host 63.109.249.173 173.249.109.63.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 63-109-249-173.reverse.newskies.net - ----- Not forged. Then, I like to see how big the IP block is. - ----- $ whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] [whois.arin.net] New Skies Satellites N.V. UU-63-109-240 (NET-63-109-240-0-1) 63.109.240.0 - 63.109.255.255 BT Limited BT-LIMITED (NET-63-109-249-160-1) 63.109.249.160 - 63.109.249.191 UUNET Technologies, Inc. UUNET63 (NET-63-64-0-0-1) 63.64.0.0 - 63.127.255.255 - ----- If the IP block is very small, say a single class C or smaller, I'll often report to the abuse address at the domain, as well as CC: the abuse address next up on the chain. > Should I report to he above message code ? to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check at http://abuse.net/lookup.phtml They have an extensive database of abuse reporting addresses. You'll see the abuse address for this domain is [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it's not in the abuse.net database, the registry info often has an abuse address. And yes, reporting spam often does some good. Here's the latest positive reply I got: - ---------- Forwarded Abuse Reply ---------- >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 6 21:19:08 2003 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:58:10 +0100 (CET) From: Richard van der Tweel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: In response to your complaint about spam from 193.67.179.110 Hello, Thank you for your report concerning Spam/UCE relayed through the mailserver with this IP-address. This open-relay has been closed. PS Complaining about spam is very useful for us and it does get many spam/relay problems solved. Relatively few people complain about spam. If it is not reported, it won't get noted and solved. Please keep on sending those complaints if you get spam! Best Regards, - -- Richard van der Tweel - - WorldCom SE/NL Abuse Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - ---------- End Forwarded Message --------- So, it actually *does* do some good sometimes. There'll always be more spammers, and more open relays, but the more we can close down, the better. - -- Steve Ackman http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?) http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff) ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 00:17:13 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: AQC bug fix.... To all list members who also frequent AQC, http://chat.arachne.cz/ Change the number of messages to be displayed from the default setting of 11, to 19 (or more), and then hit refresh. *********** !! 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Sam Heywood You are totally correct in your strategy, with many "dead" ni-cad or lead-acid batteries, if they have not been dead for too long. The "temporary death" is caused by "branch crystals" growing between the + and - plates, being sharp, and actually puncturing the insulator between + and - plates, thus short-circuiting the battery. Your "brief" high power surge burns off these short circuit bridges, thus permitting the battery to once again take a charge. You are also correct in your "cautions" to wear safety glasses, protective clothes, gloves, etc. If any of these batteries rupture/explode acid or caustic fluid will go in your eyes, nose, mouth... all of which are not nice, not to mention possible blindness. Also, an exceptionally heavy surge current, if you use such, will generate significant amounts of hydrogen and oxygen, mixed together into a deadly cloud if there is even the slightest spark.... Boom ! For someone who was just guessing how to re-activate batteries, you are very clever. You are almost intelligent, taking all the safety precautions. Keep on truckin with those batteries. Ross Virgin Toronto, Canada .. .. On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:11:12 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:04:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Hi all, >> I was given 2 very old laptops (Toshiba Satellite 1800s) that still >> function, but the batteries won't recharge. Everything else still works >> fine. >> I wanted to use the laptops for a demo of an old DOS database, but it's >> not so important that I'm eager to buy some new batteries. >> Does anybody have a brilliant scheme to shock old batteries back to life? >> Thanks, >> Bob > Shocking Ni-Cad batteries into a resurrectable condition is something > I have done many times. I don't know if my way of doing it is the > recommended method, but I do know that it works. Nobody ever > recommended the method to me. It is just something I tried and I found > out that it works. Since then I have met others who say they have made > the same discovery on their own about how one can shock a Ni-Cad battery > pack into a resurrectable condition. > Here is how I do it: > I shock the battery pack for a period of several seconds by using a > power supply having about twice the voltage of the power-pack and capable > of delivering at least twice the amperage of the recommended charging > device. After doing that I hook up the battery pack to the recommended > charging device. Then I make measurements to determine if charging > current is flowing through the battery pack. If no charging current is > flowing I shock the battery pack again. I repeat these procedures until > I get the battery pack shocked back into a rechargeable condition. In > some cases I have to increase the power of the initial shocks up to about > 4 times the normal charging power. In most cases my efforts to resurrect > Ni-Cad batteries are successful, but sometimes I find that they have been > dead for too long and that their souls have already gone to heaven. I > can't bring them back after that, not even if I convert to an alternative > religion. In shocking Ni-Cad batteries back to life you want to take care > to just zap the battery pack and not to fry it. If the battery pack > starts getting very warm, then you are applying too much power for too > much time. You should wear safety glasses and take other precautions when > trying to shock a battery into a resurrectable condition. Too much power > applied across the terminals of a battery can cause the battery to melt or > even expode. > Regards, > Sam Heywood > -- > This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: > http://browser.arachne.cz/ - -- Arachne V1.66, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 08:59:17 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Hotmail On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 01:44:23 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote: > Is there a way to use Arachne for hotmail? No. I don't think so. Hotmail stopped working with Arachne at least four years ago. Can't remember why exactly. - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:27:12 +0000 (UTC) From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Hotmail On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Sam Ewalt wrote: > On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 01:44:23 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote: > > > Is there a way to use Arachne for hotmail? > > No. I don't think so. Hotmail stopped working with Arachne at > least four years ago. Can't remember why exactly. I know why. It is because Micro$oft bought Hotmail. Sam Heywood - -- Message handled by Pine, Version 4.33 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:57:07 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Hotmail Don't worry about Micro$oft any longer. After all, they provided the Windoze source code to China so in a couple of daze it should be in the public domain (unless Micro$soft also bought China). Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona Sam Heywood wrote: . > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Sam Ewalt wrote: . > > On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 01:44:23 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote: . > > > Is there a way to use Arachne for hotmail? . > > No. I don't think so. Hotmail stopped working with Arachne at . > > least four years ago. Can't remember why exactly. . > I know why. It is because Micro$oft bought Hotmail. . > Sam Heywood ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:28:45 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Recharging Old Laptop Batteries On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:51:03 +0000, Ross Virgin wrote: > ... > ... > Sam Heywood > You are totally correct in your strategy, with > many "dead" ni-cad or lead-acid batteries, if > they have not been dead for too long. > The "temporary death" is caused by "branch crystals" > growing between the + and - plates, being sharp, > and actually puncturing the insulator between > + and - plates, thus short-circuiting the battery. > Your "brief" high power surge burns off these > short circuit bridges, thus permitting the battery > to once again take a charge. > You are also correct in your "cautions" to wear > safety glasses, protective clothes, gloves, etc. > If any of these batteries rupture/explode acid or > caustic fluid will go in your eyes, nose, mouth... > all of which are not nice, not to mention possible > blindness. Also, an exceptionally heavy surge > current, if you use such, will generate significant > amounts of hydrogen and oxygen, mixed together into > a deadly cloud if there is even the slightest > spark.... Boom ! > For someone who was just guessing how to re-activate > batteries, you are very clever. You are almost > intelligent, taking all the safety precautions. > Keep on truckin with those batteries. > Ross Virgin > Toronto, Canada > ... > ... > On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:11:12 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:04:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: <snip> In using jumper cables for delivering a brief and very powerful charging rate to an automobile battery, significant amounts of hydrogen are released. If the hydrogen and oxygen mix inside the battery being charged is of the right proportions a spark can set off a very violent explosion. It happened to me once. I used to not be a believer in the manufacturer's warnings about how to use jumper cables safely, but my very bad experience changed my faith forever on that issue. Most people do not heed manufacturer's warnings on how to use jumper cables safely. Automobile batteries are lead-acid batteries. All lead-acid batteries release hydrogen when being charged. I do not know what kinds of gases are released by Ni-Cad batteries as they are being charged. Let me tell you about my very bad experience. My girlfriend and I were in front of my apartment building and we had decided to go out for a date. First we had an argument about where we were going to go. She lost that argument and she agreed to go with me to where I wanted to go. Then we had an argument over which of my two cars we were going to take. She lost that argument and she agreed to go with me in the car I wanted to take. The car I wanted to take would not start because the battery was very low. I lifted the hoods of both cars and I took out the jumper cables from the trunk of one of the cars. While I was doing that the girlfriend started an argument with me about politics by making some stupid comment about how all Republicans are unreasonable and disagreeable and that they don't know how to please a woman. The debate became very heated and we started shouting at each other. Any onlooker might have gotten the mistaken impression that we were having an ugly lover's quarrel. We were not having a lover's quarrel. We were only arguing about politics. I started one of the cars and then I began to hook up the jumper cables to the other car while the girlfriend continued to shout at me and telling me about how how unreasonable and disagreeable I am in her not so humble opinion. I yelled back at her about how she is so wrong on the subject of politics. Then there was an extremely loud explosion. It sounded like a shotgun blast. The battery had blown up and acid had splattered all over my chest area. I started ripping off my clothing, lest the acid should soak through to my skin. The girlfriend just stood in front of me and screamed at me as I was ripping off my shirt and my undershirt. Within a minute a police cruiser arrived on the scene. The officer told us that he had received a complaint of a very loud disturbance in which a shot had allegedly been fired. Also the officer demanded an explanation as to why I was ripping off my clothes in front of the woman who had been screaming at me. The confrontation with the police officer was very embarrassing both for myself and the girlfriend. The officer was annoyed with both of us for creating a disturbance. Also he was especially annoyed with me for trying to jump start a car in an unsafe manner. He said he could cite both of us for disturbing the peace and he said he could charge me also with violating a law against committing unsafe acts. The girlfriend was very good at dealing with the police officer and she talked him out of running us in and booking charges against us. After all that I washed down the car where the acid had sprayed out and I washed myself up and changed my clothes. The girlfriend and I then went out on our date. I took her to where she wanted to go and I took her in the car she wanted to ride in. For the rest of the evening I let her get her way with me. I really hate it when a woman gets her way with me, but I like it when she knows how to get her way with a police officer in talking him out of arresting me. The police officer advised me that if I were smart I would let my girlfriend get her way with me. I told him I would and he decided not to arrest me. During the course of my relationship with that girl I never lost anything other than my shirt. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #2068 ******************************
